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Does anyone know when Paul Johnson's contract is up?

Posted on 12/30/13 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 4:53 pm
Regardless of who ends up winning the Music City Bowl, I'm ready for a new coach. I'd pull for Ole Miss if it meant getting a new coach. The triple option is usually ineffective after the initial drive unless we are playing East Chattanooga Technical Seminary. Paul Johnson is the perfect coach if you want to consistently win 7 games. If Stanford can be a top 10 team, why can't Georgia Tech consistently compete for the ACC?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:07 pm to
People forget that O'Leary and Ross didn't always control the ACC.

Iirc only Ross and Johnson have won the ACC since 89 at Tech.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:42 pm to
True, but at least with O'Leary and Ross there was at least a chance of some big wins. I guess there are plenty of teams that would trade places, but I get tired of watching them be so ineffective.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 5:43 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 6:40 pm to
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consistently win 7 games

that's the best tech can and should hope for
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19020 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 6:47 pm to
If the administration really wanted Georgia Tech to be a force, it could happen. It would take some major changes, though.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 6:57 pm to
No offense, but the fact that Tech fans are asking about their coach's contract on a predominantly SEC board is indicative of some of the issues.

I'm sure if enough of you guys get serious about football the AD will respond. But as long as there are billboards advertising season tickets starting at 150 bucks, I don't think we're there. I'd like for Tech to be formidable again, but I'm not sure how that'll happen.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39968 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Regardless of who ends up winning the Music City Bowl, I'm ready for a new coach. I'd pull for Ole Miss if it meant getting a new coach. The triple option is usually ineffective after the initial drive unless we are playing East Chattanooga Technical Seminary. Paul Johnson is the perfect coach if you want to consistently win 7 games.
I coached a few of his players and they're tired of the offense.

quote:

If Stanford can be a top 10 team, why can't Georgia Tech consistently compete for the ACC?

I don't think Tech offers enough different majors for them to get on the same level as them.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:11 pm to
We really do have the talent, right now, to be better than we are. The problem is the scheme. It's seriously effective when executed perfectly, but the execution isn't there.

We need to take a long, hard look at how we utilize our talent. A rushing attack out of the shotgun like Auburn's would be easier to manage. It's simpler but still uses most of the types of guys we have. GT, with the right OC and HC, could have been a 9/10 win team this year.
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:26 pm to
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We really do have the talent


Not to be a dick, but no you don't.

Recruiting rankings:
2014: 47
2013: 72
2012: 59
2011: 46
2010: 41
2009: 32

One could argue you are overachieving due to Paul Johnson and his system.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39968 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:29 pm to
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One could argue you are overachieving due to Paul Johnson and his system.


One could also argue that kids are turned off by Paul Johnson and his dickish attitude and he can't recruit to save his life.
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:45 pm to
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One could also argue that kids are turned off by Paul Johnson and his dickish attitude and he can't recruit to save his life.


Very true. Do his players even like him? He comes across as a huge dick
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39968 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:59 pm to
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Very true. Do his players even like him? He comes across as a huge dick



The few that I know like him.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:49 pm to
Paul Johnson the coach has done a great job at GT, but man oh man he's been a horrible recruiter. There is no excuse for them being completely void of talent at the FB position.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59530 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:23 pm to
Well, most immediately it should have been Brendan Douglas at FB for the Trade School, but Georgia offered on NSD Eve and Buzz Lightyear told CPJ (offensive super genius) "thanks, but no."
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:49 pm to
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consistently win 7 games

that's the best tech can and should hope for


It is respectable. I mean it is Arkansas' ceiling so at least it isn't horrible
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94353 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:55 pm to
The triple option strikes me as an offense smaller/less talented schools use to level the playing field.

Navy, Georgia Southern, etc.

It works against lesser talent but tends to get shut down against equally or greater talented teams. Thus...6 or 7 win seasons. I just can't understand how its beneficial to be extremely limited throwing the ball. If a team jumps out to a decent lead, GT is fricked. IMO, GT could find more success if they ran a traditional offense.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6075 posts
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:55 pm to
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If Stanford can be a top 10 team, why can't Georgia Tech consistently compete for the ACC?

Stanford has "athletic friendly majors" but they also have a massive recruiting budget and nationally recruit. I doubt Tech has anywhere close to that budget.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29113 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 7:54 am to
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Iirc only Ross and Johnson have won the ACC since 89 at Tech.


O'Leary won a share of the title with FSU in 1998 but the Noles had the tiebreaker for BCS purposes.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:51 am to
CPJ will never be successful as long as UGA is able to continously out recruit him...call it scheme, call it whatever...the talent level is not where it needs to be in order to compete..as someone mentioned, this is not Navy nor GSU...he did well at those schools but to comete year in and year out with Clemson, FSU, Miami, VT, etc. he has to get the best players in the state...that he is not doing and won't
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:09 am to
I don't think GT has to outrecruit UGA to be successful. They need better recruiting, but success for GT at this point is competing for the ACC and Jan 1 bowls, neither of which require them to outdo UGA.
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