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New playoff format should benefit LSU greatly...
Posted on 12/24/13 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 11:15 pm
As long as the format stays true to it's intent, best 4 teams in the playoff, we should have an opportunity nearly every year to make that cut.
Can't manage to get past tGumps, or suffer an upset along the way, our SOS should keep us in the mix.
Matter of fact, SOS appears to be the most important factor in this new system so we should be ok as far as that's concerned and remain ambitious in that regard.
Wisky 2014 may not be a marquee game nationally, but they are good enough to complement our SEC schedule strength imo...
My biggest complaint overall about college football is the huge discrepancy in schedule toughness around the country, and sometimes within the mighty SEC itself, yes gumps I'm referring to ya.
Programs should be rewarded for playing a tough SOS, and penalized if they don't. Just that simple.
Can't manage to get past tGumps, or suffer an upset along the way, our SOS should keep us in the mix.
Matter of fact, SOS appears to be the most important factor in this new system so we should be ok as far as that's concerned and remain ambitious in that regard.
Wisky 2014 may not be a marquee game nationally, but they are good enough to complement our SEC schedule strength imo...
My biggest complaint overall about college football is the huge discrepancy in schedule toughness around the country, and sometimes within the mighty SEC itself, yes gumps I'm referring to ya.
Programs should be rewarded for playing a tough SOS, and penalized if they don't. Just that simple.
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 11:57 pm to tiger4178
Too deep for XMAS eve?
Posted on 12/25/13 at 12:09 am to tiger4178
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New playoff format should benefit LSU greatly...
At the moment, not so much.
Right now the SEC has enough respect that the SEC champ is almost an auto-bid to the BCS.
I think the playoff is intended to be limited to conference champs.
So in BCS, the SEC champ is in.
And with the new playoffs the SEC champ is in, but has to win an extra game.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 12:21 am to M. A. Ryland
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I think the playoff is intended to be limited to conference champs
Completely false.
The new system is set up to choose the top 4 teams, regardless of conference affiliation.
That's part of the beauty of it.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 12:31 am to tiger4178
I think you're going to be disappointed
more than likely the conference champs of major conferences will be the typical representatives - if this wasn't the case they would have more trouble getting buy in from the power players of college football.
more than likely the conference champs of major conferences will be the typical representatives - if this wasn't the case they would have more trouble getting buy in from the power players of college football.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 12:31 am to tiger4178
Way off IMO. Look at all the pundits that vouched for Ohio St. This year. The first good team they played, they LOST. Our SEC schedule is always tough, one loss could lead to a re-match with a team we already beat. Or completely leave us out of the top 4 if they vote for conference champs. We all know some of those are good on paper, but didn't earn shite
Posted on 12/25/13 at 12:46 am to tiger4178
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The new system is set up to choose the top 4 teams, regardless of conference affiliation.
again, probably not when you look at what has been said:
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The championship game will be managed by the conferences and will not be branded as a bowl game. The presidents also announced the creation of a selection committee that will rank the teams to play in the playoff, "giving all the teams an equal opportunity to participate." The committee will consider win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results and whether a team is a conference champion.
When you look at those listed criteria that makes it a long shot for an at large who didn't win their conference to make the field.
1) Win/loss records are unlikely to help at large teams that don't win their conference; their W/L records are similar generally (MSU, UCF, Baylor, and Alabama have the same records this year).
2) Strength of schedule won't help teams like Alabama or LSU unless they have scheduled more aggressively out of conference. Note that Alabama this year had one win against a team in teh top 20 of the BCS (in LSU) whereas conference champs like Baylor, MSU, and Stanford may have better quality wins on their schedules (again, I refer you to the BCS rankings of teams like OU, tOSU, Oregon, ASU, and UCLA compared to Bama's best team beaten in LSU)
3) Head to head results - another way of saying win your conference. If you lost those games against teams you should have beaten to win your conference you are going to have an uphill battle to an at large berth.
4) Winning your conference - By definition this will not favor at large bids.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:01 am to molsusports
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I think you're going to be disappointed more than likely the conference champs of major conferences will be the typical representatives - if this wasn't the case they would have more trouble getting buy in from the power players of college football.
As the guy above pointed out, tOSU is a prime example of why they should be left out. The new system will not reward those that play extremely weak schedules, like tOSU did this past season.
Just because of the SOS factor and proven reputation, we'll prolly have at least one SEC and PAC team each, with the other two spots up for grabs. Maybe tB12 gets one some years, or maybe even tBIG but they're no guarantee's, which is the beauty of it.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:12 am to tiger4178
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Wisky 2014 may not be a marquee game nationally, but they are good enough to complement our SEC schedule strength imo...
From what I remember reading, Wisconsin should be a pretty damn good football team next year. They played well this year and I THINK they return most of their starters. It will be a very tough opening test I believe.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:12 am to tiger4178
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The new system will not reward those that play extremely weak schedules
Agree, if you mean it won't reward them as an at large team. But Bama's schedule this year was pretty soft if you look: they functionally had seven plus bye weeks on top of their bye week. They lost to the only elite team they played and their best win was an inconsistent LSU team that finished with 3 losses and ranked #16 in the BCS.
If this year were next year and you (as Bama or LSU) really wanted to maximize your shot of an at large bid you gotta get out there and beat some good OOC teams if you can't win your conference.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:28 am to AdamDeMamp
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From what I remember reading, Wisconsin should be a pretty damn good football team next year. They played well this year and I THINK they return most of their starters. It will be a very tough opening test I believe
Wisky is no slouch. Before this past season they'd won 3 straight BIG titles.
They are certainly strong enough to not hurt LSU in SOS.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:29 am to molsusports
if it started this year you would have two sec teams in with bama and auburn....but each year will be different..it will be interesting to see how this appointed board selects teams...
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:35 am to tigerswin03
quote:i heard Sam got aluminum foil
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Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:42 am to molsusports
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Agree, if you mean it won't reward them as an at large team. But Bama's schedule this year was pretty soft if you look: they functionally had seven plus bye weeks on top of their bye week. They lost to the only elite team they played and their best win was an inconsistent LSU team that finished with 3 losses and ranked #16 in the BCS. If this year were next year and you (as Bama or LSU) really wanted to maximize your shot of an at large bid you gotta get out there and beat some good OOC teams if you can't win your conference.
You make some good points, Bama indeed once again had an easier slate than the rest of tSEC but their body of work would certainly have been good enough to get in under the new formats top 4.
Matter of fact, this year it would be them, Auburn, FSU, and prolly Stanford taking that 4th spot. Two SECWest teams with Auburn shocking the world for a spot many years would be taken by LSU.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:47 am to tigerswin03
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if it started this year you would have two sec teams in with bama and auburn....but each year will be different..it will be interesting to see how this appointed board selects teams...
Yea, you can check back into the BCS era and more often than not, they'll be two SEC teams in the top 4.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 1:52 am to tiger4178
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You make some good points, Bama indeed once again had an easier slate than the rest of tSEC but their body of work would certainly have been good enough to get in under the new formats top 4.
1) There has been nothing said to guarantee that the BCS rankings will be used to decide who is given a playoff bid
2) There have been several things said that imply the opposite - especially winning your conference will be used as a tie breaker when comparing teams from different conferences.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 2:08 am to tiger4178
Dude, if the football illuminati were happy with the SEC winning every year then they wouldn't have changed from the BCS format. Your premise of this change helping LSU or the SEC is incorrect. The committee in charge of picking teams for this new format will make political/financial decisions as to who gets in.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 2:10 am to molsusports
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1) There has been nothing said to guarantee that the BCS rankings will be used to decide who is given a playoff bid
As far as I know, they're will no longer even be a BCS after this season.
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2) There have been several things said that imply the opposite - especially winning your conference will be used as a tie breaker when comparing teams from different conferences.
That sounds fair enough, but still shouldn't impact tSEC getting two teams in most years given the past history.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 2:24 am to Flame Salamander
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Dude, if the football illuminati were happy with the SEC winning every year then they wouldn't have changed from the BCS format. Your premise of this change helping LSU or the SEC is incorrect. The committee in charge of picking teams for this new format will make political/financial decisions as to who gets in.
The new format is still advantageous for non SEC teams as at least two get a shot instead of one dude, and there will certainly be years when tSEC only gets one into the new format leaving 3 spots open.
And given the whole point of the new format is a shot at 'spreading the wealth' amongst all teams, which it does without a doubt, all your paranoia is unwarranted and silly.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 5:48 am to tiger4178
This whole post is hilarious. Your putting in this ''committee'' doing the right thing?
The thing is they aren't bound by any rules or criteria they must follow. Remember my words, before its all said and done people will be wishing we still had the BCS.
The thing is they aren't bound by any rules or criteria they must follow. Remember my words, before its all said and done people will be wishing we still had the BCS.
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