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Being able to challenge judgement calls



Judgement calls by officials can really affect the outcome of games. In the end fans say, "the refs didn't lose the game, it was our inability to..." but in a lot of cases judgement calls can lead to 3, 7, 10, etc point swings. I know this has been brought up before but its worth pushing for in the NFL and even college imo. It may slow down the game by an extra 10 minutes but I think its worth getting these often huge momentum swing plays correct. So do you think a coach should be able to challenge a PI, Holding, Helmet to helmet and so on?


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Sentrius
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I imagine this will be brought up in the offseason.

It will be interesting to see how this changes the dynamics of the game.



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Yes, PI has turned into the biggest joke in sports IMO





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castorinho
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Affect*





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CRAZY 4 LSU
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Affect

You are correct






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castorinho
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There was a thread about this a couple of weeks ago agreeing with this point and also giving ways on how to limit the challenges so that it doesn't slow the game down.

Really no reason why they can't be challenged. It will be more difficult to overturn but it should be challengeable






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TypoKnig
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I think the issue is overturning judgement calls. It would seem that the call would have to be blatantly wrong for it to be overturned as most officials aren't going to overturn a 50/50 call of one of his crew members.

Also it would seem that you could track the number of overturned judgement calls of each referree and use it as a measure of accuracy (which im not arguing is a baf thing).






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hiltacular
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I think all penalties should be able to be challenged with each game having a head ref in the booth who's only responsibility is to make a judgment on the call.





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WicKed WayZ
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I think the helmet to helmet and defenseless player penalties should be reviewed.

They should be taken out, you have a helmet and shoulder pads, you're not defenseless






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MikeD
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I think so. Keep the same challenge rules but allow anything to be challengeable.





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arrakis
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Also it would seem that you could track the number of overturned judgement calls of each referree and use it as a measure of accuracy (which im not arguing is a baf thing).

It's done now...Dumbass. The League grades every official on every play. Not only the fouls they call, but the fouls they miss and their position on the field....etc.

At the end of the year, officials with the highest grade get a playoff assignment; the top at each position works the SB






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TypoKnig
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Calm the frick down.

I know the league audits the refs. I meant that the media and fans could easily track reversed calls of each official.






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The idea that allowing coaches to challenge judgment calls would slow the game down is illogical. A coach gets two challenges. If you expand challengeable plays, he still gets two challenges.





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CGSC Lobotomy
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Penn Wagers wouldn't have a single call stand if judgment calls were overturned.





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CRAZY 4 LSU
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The idea that allowing coaches to challenge judgment calls would slow the game down is illogical. A coach gets two challenges. If you expand challengeable plays, he still gets two challenges.


Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.






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ballscaster
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Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.
Yes but you almost always burn two timeouts. A failed challenge is a timeout.

Also, coaches will quickly learn the logical conflict between "judgment call" and "indisputable evidence." If a coach challenges a pass interference no-call, he will almost always lose on account of this. And he'll learn that such a challenge might not be worth risking a timeout.






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Wayne Campbell
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Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.


Even if both teams used all their challenges and won, thus securing a third challenge, isn't there a time limit of 2 minutes on the review?

So under that scenario, you'd be adding a maximum of 12 minutes to broadcast time.






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hiltacular
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You would think that with the amount of money and everything else that is on the line with these games, the NFL would be doing everything in it's power to keep the refs from impacting the game/getting the calls right.

The system they have now isn't working. I wish someone like SI would do a detailed look into missed calls or calls that changed a game.






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todospm
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Something has to change.

The penalty on Whitner last night was utterly ridiculous. If that had been the final drive of a four point game...






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