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Are the Pelicans the 12th most talented team in the West?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:41 am
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:41 am
...only Memphis, Sacramento, and Utah have worse records.
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:43 am to drake20
The west is just so loaded. Plus we're young and injured with an average coach.
Right at or below .500 is more than likely where we're gonna be this year, but there's plenty of potential for our core.
Right at or below .500 is more than likely where we're gonna be this year, but there's plenty of potential for our core.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 7:36 am to drake20
There's no excuse for that when you've got AD playing like he is and making small time cash like he is
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:27 am to MrBlue105
I think time to gel is an excuse. We have to quit acting like how this team plays now is how it will play if they can string 20+ completely healthy games together. What I'm worried about is we keep going like we're going to about 30-35, and then finish off the season strong 14-3 but still just miss the playoffs. What do you do with that? Assume they finally get it and keep Monty based on one hot streak?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:31 am to TigerinATL
Well the last 15 games of the season looks like:
@ ATL
vs MIA
vs BKLN
vs LAC
vs UTAH
@ SAS
vs SAC
@ DEN
@ UTAH
@ POR
vs PHX
@ OKC
@ HOU
vs OKC
vs HOU
I'd be pretty damn happy to drop 3 or less of those games
@ ATL
vs MIA
vs BKLN
vs LAC
vs UTAH
@ SAS
vs SAC
@ DEN
@ UTAH
@ POR
vs PHX
@ OKC
@ HOU
vs OKC
vs HOU
I'd be pretty damn happy to drop 3 or less of those games
Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:39 am to drake20
I watched the timberwolves play in those stupid jerseys last night. They didn't look all that great.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:04 pm to TigerinATL
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I think time to gel is an excuse
Yep.
Very easy to call a slow start for this team. The key is can they figure things out in the coming months.
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30-35, and then finish off the season strong 14-3 but still just miss the playoffs. What do you do with that? Assume they finally get it and keep Monty based on one hot streak?
Come on now. You'd rather the team lose than keep Monty? You may have gone full Rantard.
Everyone wants to win now. The roster has potential, but, unfortunately, team building takes time.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:13 pm to corndeaux
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Come on now. You'd rather the team lose than keep Monty?
Of course not. I just want the next step to be a black and white decision. Karl is lobbying hard for the job, if we pass him up it should be because Monty earns the right to be here several more years, not because the team got hot at the right time and then finds out we gave Monty one year too many.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:15 pm to TigerinATL
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if we pass him up it should be because Monty earns the right to be here several more years, not because the team got hot at the right time and then finds out we gave Monty one year too many.
And how do we tell the difference?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 12:21 pm to corndeaux
By starting to win more consistently now preferably or not getting on a lucky hot streak at the end. I don't want them to lose, I just don't want to bet on fools gold. Hopefully we'll know when we see it.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 1:07 pm to drake20
Talent wise, Memphis is better than us. Sacramento might be up there too now that they have Gay. Lakers are worse than Utah though 
Posted on 12/21/13 at 1:46 pm to CecilShortsHisPants
Why do the Suns, Nuggets, and Lakers have better records than us?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:10 pm to drake20
Suns have an underrated squad, Nuggets still have homecourt advantage, Lakers are bad. I can't understand how they've won 13 games.
We've underperformed to this point in my opinion. The laughable early schedule should have put us somewhere around 15-9 right now, instead of 11-13.
We've underperformed to this point in my opinion. The laughable early schedule should have put us somewhere around 15-9 right now, instead of 11-13.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:16 pm to TigerinATL
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By starting to win more consistently now preferably or not getting on a lucky hot streak at the end.
This is fascinating to me in a good, interesting way.
What were your expectations for this team before the season? Have they changed since the games began? If so, how have they changed?
If we have lucky hot streaks, can we have unlucky cold streaks?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:21 pm to corndeaux
My preseason expectations were 6-10 in West. Now I'll be content with 10th place. There's no way this squad makes the playoffs this year, schedule is just too rough the rest of the way.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:36 pm to CecilShortsHisPants
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My preseason expectations were 6-10 in West
Yeah. I thought 50 wins and a 6 seed were the ultimate best case, everything goes perfectly scenario. Realistically, I was hoping for about 42 wins and a top 20 defense.
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Now I'll be content with 10th place. There's no way this squad makes the playoffs this year, schedule is just too rough the rest of the way.
Still a lot of time left. They're only 2.5 games out of the 8 seed. I always thought the team would start slow and then pick it up before the ASB.
I've seen enough good things that I still think they can pull it off. But they need some wins v .500 teams very, very soon and they need to stay healthy.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:48 pm to corndeaux
They are right around where I expected them to be. I wish they could have taken those games against the Mavs and Pacers but outside of that thy are who I thought they would be around now.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:48 pm to corndeaux
I can see them winning a big game here and there, but I really think SA, OKC, Port, GS, Hou could be sweeps. They're reallllly good, and we're just pretty good.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 3:28 pm to corndeaux
This isn't about meeting expectations, this is about Anthony Davis' timeline, different paths being available that weren't available in the past, and Monty continuing to fail to show he's anything special. If we finish strong because we execute well that's one thing, but if we finish strong because we're healthy when other teams aren't and teams are resting starters for the playoffs, then the record doesn't tell the whole story. Like I said, we'll hopefully know it when we see it.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 7:07 pm to TigerinATL
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Anthony Davis' timeline
He's been very, very good. But he's still a year away from being the best player on a good team. Figuring out what type of players he needs is a lot of what the next couole of years are about.
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different paths being available that weren't available in the past
Like what? Not a knock. Legit question. What are you thinking?
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because we execute well that's one thing
This is the key for this season. Developing consistent, good 2 way play. Even if they lose, we need to be looking for signs that they are getting it.
The key thing to remember IMO is that everyone- players and coaches- is still learning. And while that is happening, the FO is evaluating all of it.
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