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Austin Rivers is one point behind Jrue Holiday in defensive rating

Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted by phelpsalot
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
552 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:07 pm
Per basketball reference:
109 vs 110 points allowed per 100 possessions


Lol advanced stats or is Austin improving defensively?
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:08 pm to
both.

drating is a team thing, right? i'm not even sure if there is an individual defensive metric.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59687 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Per basketball reference:
109 vs 110 points allowed per 100 possessions


Lol advanced stats or is Austin improving defensively?


Both of those defensive rating #s are below average.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61432 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:12 pm to
It's pretty obvious that Rivers has become a pesky on ball defender. If he can figure out his offensive game he'd have a bright future.
Posted by HickfawJim1
Member since Sep 2013
438 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:12 pm to
He has definitely developed into a good defender. If only he didn't suck so much on offense. He should just focus on being a 3 and D guard.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Both are below average.



that doesn't mean no improvement. you can improve and still be below average.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 2:28 pm to
Synergy had Holiday number one in the league in isolation defense as of a couple weeks ago.

Rivers' saving grace, even last year, as an NBA player has been his effort(he hustles his arse off) and his defense. Things nobody saw coming from a guy who was supposed to be an entitled, Kobe-wannabe, offense only diva.

His offensive game is just broken though.

He's basically the opposite player of every scouting report of him coming out of HS and Duke.
Posted by MrBlue105
chillin with the BWC - anaconda
Member since Apr 2013
6602 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:06 pm to
Also, rivers has been Ding up kent bazemore and other backups while Jrue has been Ding up Jrue holiday, eric bledsoe, etc.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17713 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

you can improve and still be below average.


Just like our head coach. Sorry, couldn't help it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61432 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Jrue has been Ding up Jrue holiday


That sounds like cheating
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2811 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:36 pm to
Rivers is not good enough for this level. No further reasoning shoukd be needed.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:37 pm to
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both.

drating is a team thing, right? i'm not even sure if there is an individual defensive metric.



DRtg and ORtg can be computed on and individual and a team level. The team clearly influences the final number.

For what it is worth, I just look at how a player fits defensively with respect to teammates and his situation and do not use it compare players in vastly different situations.

Here, I read that Rivers is as good as Holiday (about) against lesser competition in short bursts. He may or may not be comparable over a longer period of time against stiff competition.
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