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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:42 pm
Just watched this for the first time.

DDL did a great job of being a character that was almost impossible to like. Didn't really have any good qualities.

I don't really understand why Daniel Plainfield (DDL) was such an awful person? Was he really just so driven by success and beating the competition that he became such a spiteful and hateful person who couldn't be happy?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:46 pm to
He wasn't necessarily driven by success, just his general disdain for people. It wasn't enough for him to be successful, he wanted everyone else to suffer and fail too.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:59 pm to
Why do people/characters have to fit into these perfect molds? There are qualities that Plainfield possesses that are very admirable.

Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:20 pm to
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Why do people/characters have to fit into these perfect molds? There are qualities that Plainfield possesses that are very admirable.

What qualities are admirable? Hard working and motivated are really the only things I could come up with
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:22 pm to
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What qualities are admirable? Hard working and motivated are really the only things I could come up with
That and he had been an oil man all his life.
Posted by RoyalBaby
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:22 pm to
He was not going to be beat by any man. He seemingly gave up everything in the end to prove this. The last scene was
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

He was not going to be beat by any man. He seemingly gave up everything in the end to prove this. The last scene was

Is that something to be respected? An unhealthy obsession with being the best that led him to abandon his family and kill?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:30 pm to
Plainview
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:34 pm to
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Is that something to be respected? An unhealthy obsession with being the best that led him to abandon his family and kill?



It is beyond me how a meme of Jordan yelling "I drink your milkshake" hasn't already made the rounds.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:34 pm to
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He was not going to be beat by any man. He seemingly gave up everything in the end to prove this


Well said
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:37 pm to
It is possible to interpret the final confrontation with his son as being caring in an incredibly perverse way. He knew that he was a monster, and he drove his son away from that.
Posted by RoyalBaby
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:58 pm to
No, it's not. It's a cautionary tale about the evils of pursuing earthly treasures while abandoning all characteristics that make us human beings (feelings, compassion, etc.). Plain view was an extreme character that only showed compassion twice in the movie that I saw. One was rescuing the kid and the other taking in a vagrant who he thought may have been a real connection to a life as a human being long forgotten. He shuns the kid and kills the other. At that point, he knows his opportunity of being human is gone.
Posted by RoyalBaby
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:59 pm to
Exactly how I see it too.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

I don't really understand why Daniel Plainfield (DDL) was such an awful person? Was he really just so driven by success and beating the competition that he became such a spiteful and hateful person who couldn't be happy?


Greed!

I. Drink. Your. Milkshake! SLLLLUUUUUURRRRPPPPPP!!!!!
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:07 pm to
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It is possible to interpret the final confrontation with his son as being caring in an incredibly perverse way. He knew that he was a monster, and he drove his son away from that.


That's how I saw it.

It was set up early in the movie that he truly cared for his son. That scene where he's trying to comfort his son who is first experiencing what it's like to be deaf was heart wrenching.
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:09 pm to
Probably my favorite film of all-time.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39126 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:10 pm to
He obviously felt bad about sending his son away after he went deaf. When he was making the deal with the other oil guys and they were saying he could retire and spend time with his family he seemed to get a little sensitive.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:10 pm to
Yep. And don't forget that he threatened the girls father after finding out that he beats her.
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:10 pm to
I watched this for the first time on Saturday. I really enjoyed it. I am always amazed how well DDL manages his career. It seems that any movie he is in at least is nominated for an Academy award and he usually wins best actor.

I think that his character in the movie did have good qualities, he did take on his dead workers child and raise him as his own. I also liked how much disdain he had for the preacher and how he handled him in the end of the movie.

Will watch again.
Posted by RoyalBaby
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:14 pm to
One of my favorite scenes also. By Plainview understanding that his relentless pursuit of oil destroyed people (including himself) and that he was too far gone for redemption, it is exactly why he drove the kid away - he didn't want to destroy him too.
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