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Jimmy Sexton's Big Play?

Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted by bodask42
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:46 pm
I know it's been discussed already that this whole Saban/Texas ordeal is likely Sexton making a play for bigger money. I just wanted to expound on that a little bit because this coaching change-over has reached astronimical levels compared to most. I don't think that's by accident.

We all know Jimmy is a master. Do you think he could be using Texas/Bama to not only get Saban a big raise, but to really push the envelope for College Head Coaching salaries in general?

When Saban came to Bama the envelope was pushed up to $4 million, and there was some controversy as this was unheard of at the time. Since then upper end salaries have crept up to the 5-6 million range.

Now we're hearing talk of $10 million/year, and most people agree Saban is worth it. Yet that is still a huge percentage increase over the current standard.

My "conspiracy theory" so to speak is Jimmy Sexton knows this is his best shot to really start driving coaches' salaries into the next level, and he is going to milk it for all its worth. In the next few years we will regularly see elite level coaches getting paid 8-9 million per year.

ETA: Just want to add, I don't know if this whole $10 mil/year number is legit or not. But if Texas/Bama does end up paying Saban this amount, I feel pretty confident that the pay grade for coaches will have been raised signicantly (again 8-9 mil a year in the next few years) whether or not it was an actual intentional move by Sexton.
This post was edited on 12/12/13 at 6:01 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:48 pm to
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most people agree Saban is worth it


At 62? Does age start to become a factor?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:48 pm to
Pretty sure he's just doing his job and maximizing his client's earnings, nothing more.
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:49 pm to
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My "conspiracy theory" so to speak is Jimmy Sexton knows this is his best shot to really start driving coaches' salaries into the next level, and he is going to milk it for all its worth. In the next few years we will regularly see elite level coaches getting paid 8-9 million per year.

No. Nick is getting paid for 4 natl championships


By your rationale, Sexton must tell Saban that he has to go. Because if he rebuffs the Texas offer, the next Texas coach aint making 8-10 million
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:50 pm to
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Pretty sure he's just doing his job and maximizing his client's earnings, nothing more.



And there by maximizing the earnings of his other coaching clients, ensuring himself more money.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:50 pm to
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Do you think he could be using Texas/Bama to not only get Saban a big raise, but to really push the envelope for College Head Coaching salaries in general?


The more a coach gets the more he gets. I doubt he's doing this for the betterment of college football as a whole.
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:51 pm to
Dude, he is leaving. In fact, he is

...

1. Being away from a place; absent or having departed.
2. Past; bygone.
3. Advanced beyond hope or recall.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:51 pm to
Most of us understand the Saban/Sexton annual troll of Nick's employer.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:52 pm to
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I know it's been discussed already
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:56 pm to
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The more a coach gets the more he gets. I doubt he's doing this for the betterment of college football as a whole.


I never said anything about the betterment of college football, only about the salaries of head coaches overall. And Sexton works for many more coaches than just Saban. As the astute observer above me posted, this insures Sexton himself a lot more money.
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 5:59 pm to
Go back to an unproven Saban coming to LSU. That was the beginning of coaches with potential being paid more. Saban's contract stated that if he won a NC he had to be paid at least $1 more than the highest paid coach.

This slight increase has been happening for over 10 years. The retarded thing is when coaches like Butch Jones gets a $4 million/year deal. He's severely overpaid. Tennessee could have gotten him for less than half of what they paid.
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7134 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:07 pm to
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Butch Jones


Or Bret Bilema being the third highest paid college coach and 13th highest overall football coach.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2019 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:09 pm to
Not when the players start realizing that these coaches are getting rich off of their backs
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:22 pm to
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Pretty sure he's just doing his job and maximizing his client's earnings, nothing more.

I don't know. It makes sense, sort of. If he drives Alabama or Texas to pay Saban an astronomical salary, he can start working on raises (and the resultant commissions) for the other coaches in his stable.

This post was edited on 12/12/13 at 6:23 pm
Posted by rocketc
Member since Oct 2013
270 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:29 pm to
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Jimmy Sexton's Big Play?
Dude, he is leaving. In fact, he is

...

1. Being away from a place; absent or having departed.
2. Past; bygone.
3. Advanced beyond hope or recall.


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+gone
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:34 pm to
Sexton's firm has many more coaches than just Saban. The higher the bar is set the more the firm makes. Genius.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6881 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:36 pm to
Is Jimmy Sexton to college football what Scott Boras became to major league baseball?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I know it's been discussed already that this whole Saban/Texas ordeal is likely Sexton making a play for bigger money


Not very likely. Saban could walk into the bama president's office tomorrow, rub his nuts on his face and tell him he wants $8 mil per year or he will go back to the NFL or Texas and he would get it before bama's president even wiped the nut sweat off his face.

It does not require what is happening now.
Posted by rocketc
Member since Oct 2013
270 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:42 pm to
It does require it to a degree. The next contract Saban signs will be his last. He's looking for the most he can get for the next 5-10 years.

Bama provides extension for $x. Sexton goes to Tx and says, 'Bama offers this. He is interested in what you can offer. Texas says we give you $x + y. Sexton goes to Alabama and says "Texas is offering $x + y." 'Bama says we can offer $x + y + z. Sexton goes to texas and says, 'Bama wants him really bad. They just offered $x + y + z. Texas says okay we'll give him $x + y + 2z. And we're here.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 6:47 pm to
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He's looking for the most he can get


I dunno about that. Saban lives for challenges. No one can say with certainty he just wants to maximize his earnings. He left miami for less money.

quote:

Bama provides extension for $x. Sexton goes to Tx and says, 'Bama offers this. He is interested in what you can offer. Texas says we give you $x + y. Sexton goes to Alabama and says "Texas is offering $x + y." 'Bama says we can offer $x + y + z. Sexton goes to texas and says, 'Bama wants him really bad. They just offered $x + y + z. Texas says okay we'll give him $x + y + 2z. And we're here.


I still maintain this is not necessary at all. Saban runs shite at bama and does not need texas to bargain with. He could get NFL money and $8 mil a year now or last year or the year before, etc. He could get what he wants from bama WITHOUT texas even being in the picture IMO. Even up to the $8, $9, or $10M being bantered around.

All of what is happening now is not necessary. Saban does not need leverage. He is unique here because he is perceived to be the best which is all that matters.

This is about saban deciding whether he wants the challenge of starting over at texas. And he hasn't made up his mind yet. When he makes up his mind, all this ends and he leaves or he stays.
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