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How much $$$ will Mandela funeral cost U.S.?



Obama, Bush, and Clinton are all set to attend...








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Carter too!





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Well I mean, I'd imagine the biggest expense is the airfare.


Unless they are going to be bitches and insist on not flying on AF1






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Bush is flying AF1with Obama

Not sure about Clinton or Carter






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How much $$$ will Mandela funeral cost U.S.?


I don't understand why people complain about crap like flying a President to a funeral overseas. We are the US. Have we really reached the point where we can't afford airfare?







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How much $$$ will Mandela funeral cost U.S.?
Since we will never even come close to paying off our debt, none really.






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I don't understand why people complain about crap like flying a President to a funeral overseas. We are the US. Have we really reached the point where we can't afford airfare?


Well, two months ago we couldn't "afford" to let people walk past the Washington Monument.





But, yeah, it's all really silly.






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Well I mean, I'd imagine the biggest expense is the airfare.


No, security is going to be the biggest expense. I can only imagine how many boots on the ground the SS and other entities will have.







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Sounds like the start of a joke.

Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Carter are riding in a plane .....






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Well, two months ago we couldn't "afford" to let people walk past the Washington Monument.


But, yeah, it's all really silly.


Or do a WH tour.

Another thing about this is what are the exact protocols regarding this? Isn't it unwise to have all living Presidents in one place overseas-security wise?

I guess Biden will be kept in a secret place in a mountain some where, yeah that makes me feel so much better






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Lsut81
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Isn't it unwise to have all living Presidents in one place overseas-security wise?


That is really the crux of my question... You are putting almost all of the living Presidents into a single location on foreign soil and in a somewhat hostile area

The security is going to be ridiculous and tons of $$$.






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Another thing about this is what are the exact protocols regarding this? Isn't it unwise to have all living Presidents in one place overseas-security wise? I guess Biden will be kept in a secret place in a mountain some where, yeah that makes me feel so much better


If you know something might happen to the quartet, I think it's best Biden goes on the plane too.






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Volvagia
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Oh, so they are hiring new people for this?



I always thought including costs of something you were going to pay for anyway to be highly disingenuous budgeting.


Nonetheless, they will probably be in a singular "secured" location






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Lsut81
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Oh, so they are hiring new people for this?

I always thought including costs of something you were going to pay for anyway to be highly disingenuous budgeting.

Nonetheless, they will probably be in a singular "secured" location


I guess the fact that you will have 4-5 different SS details going (one for each President), you will have to accommodate all of the additional personnel, you will have to have additional transport on the ground, etc... Is just figured into a budget?

There's a difference between 1 President going and 4 or 5. Plus there are reportedly 20+ congressmen going, along with however many other present and former US dignitaries. This isn't a normal trip by any means.






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I guess the fact that you will have 4-5 different SS details going (one for each President), you will have to accommodate all of the additional personnel, you will have to have additional transport on the ground, etc... Is just figured into a budget?

There's a difference between 1 President going and 4 or 5. Plus there are reportedly 20+ congressmen going, along with however many other present and former US dignitaries. This isn't a normal trip by any means.
Having everyone there probably means less individual management. Plus we rely on the foreign government for more security than we let on. Probably send over one really big advance team instead of a normal one, but much more efficient than 40 individual visits I would guess.






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Lsut81
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Having everyone there probably means less individual management


Agreed, but you can bet your arse each of the Presidents will have their few inner circle agents with them.

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but much more efficient than 40 individual visits I would guess.



Definitely, but my point is that we are about to spend a shite ton of money on this. I def think Obama should go, being that he is the sitting President, but sending over all of these people def puts a bullseye on the festivities for terrorist like groups, which in turn means more security and prep. Additionally, I'd be willing to bet that the added costs of sending over all of the other president's is far more than the costs were of keeping the national parks open during the shutdown.






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My point is just that the difference in cost is simply in hotel rooms, etc.


All of the people you meationed already HAS a SS detail.

And any additional manpower didn't just pop into existence and now we have to pay for it.


It's absurd math like they used to come up with an obscene figure for one of Obama's Africa trips. They positioned an aircraft carrier battle group nearby and the cost of it was gleefully included.






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Have we really reached the point where we can't afford airfare?


Yes. We're about 17 Trillion past that point.






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Lsut81
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My point is just that the difference in cost is simply in hotel rooms, etc.


Hotel rooms, food, transportation, etc...

What if they have to bring 5-10 more vehicles over to accommodate? That means chartering another aircraft to fly those vehicles to Africa.

Sure, it may not be double what it is to just send Obama over, but I'd be its an additional 50%.

So if its costing us 50M to send Obama over (Just making up figure) is it worth 25m for the other presidents to go? Especially when you claim that you don't have a few million dollars available to spend to keep national parks, WH tours, etc... up and running?

My point is, Obama should go, but there is no reason for the others to go since they aren't sitting Presidents. If they want to attend out of respect and friendship, they should pick up the added costs and not pass them along to the taxpayer.






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Additionally, I'd be willing to bet that the added costs of sending over all of the other president's is far more than the costs were of keeping the national parks open during the shutdown.

Someone who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.






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