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re: If you could build the perfect deer rifle

Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:49 pm to
I hope you get one with it. It was a helluva rush. Make sure you use good ammo for the job.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5515 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:23 pm to
Any ammo suggestions? 180 grain Hornady Critical Defense? I also have some Nosler Hunting handloads but they are 135 grain...,,
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:27 pm to
I would not use typical defense ammo. I used buffalo bore 220 grain hard cast hunting rounds.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5515 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:30 pm to
Gotcha. I may have a hard time locating the Buffalo Bore you referenced.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:33 pm to
You'll need something that won't expand too much. I like an exit wound when I shoot deer so I went with the hard cast.

Although if you shoot them in the neck it really doesn't matter.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

buffalo bore


Doesn't it just make you feel all gigigidy inside when you light one of those things off?

I'd shoot buffalo bore in my .22 if they made it
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5515 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:42 pm to
Just checked my 10mm stash and I have some 200 gr Blazer FP and some 180 grain Nosler FP that I loaded with Unique powder. I'm thinking one of those will do the job.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:44 pm to
Let us know

Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Doesn't it just make you feel all gigigidy inside when you light one of those things off?


Those things are hot

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:45 pm to
I need to borrow slick's .44 magnesium to try some of the +P+ hard cast

I love recoil and fire
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5515 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:51 pm to
I think I can locate some Buffalo Bore here in town but if it's JHP should I just stick with my FP I already have?
Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:54 pm to
U need to get some hand loaded 357 like buffalo bore only better
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:54 pm to
You can borrow mine as well.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Not at all. Probably the most versatile 600 meter rifle cartridge on the planet.


I agree and if I bought a bolt gun, today, it would be chambered in .308 for a number of reasons.

I am intrigued by the whole .300 RUM concept, though - if that were to catch on - it could change everything, from a versatility standpoint.

Still early and too costly - if I handloaded, I would probably already be into the experiment.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

am intrigued by the whole .300 RUM concept, though - if that were to catch on - it could change everything, from a versatility standpoint.


No flame, but why's that?

ETA: nevermind, I just read the numbers. Yeah, I could get into that!
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 9:17 pm
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

.308


quote:

that fricker kicked the shite out of me.


What a fricking pussy.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30674 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:25 pm to
300 RUM is a beast. Is it really a concept, thats the round I got a hit at a mile with and that was 3 or 4 years ago. They make factory loaded ammo for it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

300 RUM is a beast. Is it really a concept, thats the round I got a hit at a mile with and that was 3 or 4 years ago. They make factory loaded ammo for it.


As a single gun concept - I am extremely intrigued - Power level 1 is roughly equivalent to .30-06, level 2 is .300 magnum, and level 3 is full power, sort of a Lapua light.

I would be concerned with how much scope adjustment I would have to make from power level to power level, but it still beats carrying 3 rifles around, doesn't it?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17251 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

thats the round I got a hit at a mile


come again?
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:25 pm to
KR,
Unfortunately, the XP-100 was discontinued by Remington some years ago so there are no new ones available. You might find one every now and then in a gun store. I've seen them at gun shows, but they're usually overpriced. They can be found on Gun Broker and similar sites. The last two I bought came from online from individuals w/ ads at handgun site classified ads. Stock XP's in factory chambers are going for $600-850 or so on Gun Broker and similar sites. $600 is used but not abused. $850 new in the box. Start adding some bells and whistles and the price could go up....aftermarket barrel, trigger, stock, etc adds value. Good scope base, rings, and scope can add value. I bought the aforementioned XP for $1100, but it came w/ a custom stock w/ some gunsmithing done to it, a nice Burris handgun scope, rings/base, custom reloading dies, one box of bullets and 20 pieces of brass. The most common chambers will include the 223 Rem, 7mm BR, 7-08 and 35 Remington. A good gunsmith can make one into whatever round a Model 700 can handle.

Some sites for classified ads:
Specialty Pistols My last two have come from here.
Accurate Reloading
Handgun Hunt
Accurate Shooter

The same info applies to the rear grip XP.

Savage used to make a bolt action pistol, the Striker, but it was also discontinued. I've been very pleased w/ mine. Prices for a stock Striker start at about $450-500.

Of course, Thompson/Center still makes the Encore and Contender, both of which are fine handguns. Actually, I've killed most of my game using the Contender, not the XP.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Base XP-100
Base Striker
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