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Interesting ATVS article, "Delusional Optimism Says SNAP OUT OF IT"

Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:06 pm
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Great, isn't it? Die hards, showing up to let those players know that sure...it was a brutal loss to a major rival -- the biggest gut punch in a season that's been full of them for the Bulldogs...but it's still great to be a Georgia Bulldog, and we still have your back.

And I thought to myself, "well...that would never happen here."

And you know what? That's pretty fricking sad.

Georgia's had a tougher year than LSU to date. They lost a huge non-conference game on a dropped field-goal snap. They got their one big win and then proceeded to lose the best running back in the country, along with God knows how many other starters or key contributors to injury, spurring a couple of close losses (nevermind losing a player to the worst targeting call in the penalty's short history). And then your star quarterback leads a tremendous comeback, on the road, versus one of your biggest rivals, only to lose on a fluke of a Hail Mary. Pretty damn tough season, but their fans are still in it.

Does anybody expect a rocking crowd next weekend when Johnny Football and Texas A&M come to Tiger Stadium? Because I don't.




quote:

"But Billy, I hold LSU to a high standard and I demand excellence of this program!"

So do I. And when this season is over, I expect the powers-that-be in the coaching staff and athletic department to take steps to continue to improve with a strong recruiting class and an offseason program that will prepare the team to do better in 2014.

But so long as there are games on the schedule, LSU has something to play for. Are you okay with four or five losses? No? Well if you don't want the players to be okay with losing these games, maybe you should show up and let them know that you support them. Doing that isn't "accepting mediocrity." It's being a fan.

"But Billy, day games on CBS suck!"

No argument out of me. I'm all for the SEC finding new network partners besides CBS. Hell, I'm in favor of finding a new conference, if there was another one that was a financial match, but that's nothing new. 2:30 kickoff games have always sucked, and they always will. But that's not changing. Go. Cheer. Be loud. Be an LSU fan.

"But [traffic/crowd/parking excuse]"

Those things were there in 2011 when LSU was undefeated all season, too. They'll still be there in the future when LSU is playing and winning big games as well. They're going to be there regardless of the team's record.

"But Billy, the team quit at the end of the Bama game!"

They absolutely did. They should be embarrassed, and I hope the open date included multiple shaming sessions. In fact, I really, really hope that some NFL scout made it known to La'El Collins that no NFL team is interested in a left tackle that lets his quarterback crawl off of the field.

So are we going to really show them and quit to? Compound the situation? Is that the kind of atmosphere we want around this program? And yes, fans do bear some responsibility in creating that atmosphere and setting that mood.

If we want to know why we've seen LSU dog it after losing to Alabama so many times, maybe it's because nobody around the program really cares about anything else.

LSU fans want to talk about how great home games are, how great they are, when the Tigers win. Great fans don't wuss out if the team does.

"But the defense..."

Sometimes great programs have to rebuild on one side of the ball. If there's a coach on LSU's campus in any sport that's earned that right after carrying more than his share of the program's load in recent years, that coach is John Chavis.

Besides, the Saints have stunk on defense for just about all of Sean Payton's tenure. Never stops people from filling up the Superdome and cheering like mad.

"But [insert doom-and-gloom cliché re: the program's health]..."

Ain't it fun doing this every couple of years?

In 2002, LSU had a disappointing recruiting class on the heels of the team's first SEC title in decades, lost the top player in the state and then lost five games. Was that a sign that 2001 was a fluke? How about 2005, when "that dummy Miles" didn't know what he was doing, per half of the fan base? Or 2008, when they lost five games? Or 2009, when the offense fell off the map? Or 2011, when *gasp* LSU finished second in country but got embarrassed in the title game?

You know, one day the Chicken Little crowd will be right about the demise of the Les Miles Era at LSU. Coaching tenures end, and frankly, most of the time they don't end well. But if I can mix my metaphors for a second, a batter under the Mendoza Line gets a hit every once in a while too. But the hitting coach doesn't sit there expecting a 56-game hitting streak after every fluke hit, does he?

The "LSU is doooooomed!" crowd has been, and will continue to be wrong many, many times before they finally get it right. Pardon me if I don't expect them to have it pegged just yet.


LINK

Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34623 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:11 pm to
I'll be there....will be on the field with all the other old military guys before kickoff...

I like Billy's position and agree with it, but when the LSU administration makes it impossible to park, you do get pissed off...
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22966 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:12 pm to
That was fricking awesome to read.
Posted by TheBuescherMan
Abu Dhabi
Member since May 2013
1231 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:33 pm to
He's not wrong.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
$900.00
Member since Jul 2013
3275 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:37 pm to
God damn it, Billy! You're a goddamned genius! Thats the most outstanding answer I have ever heard! You must have a goddamned I.Q. of 160!
Posted by THATLSUBOY
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
2945 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:38 pm to
I'll be there early like i always do!
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:41 pm to
Nice article Billy!
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:42 pm to
Couldn't have said it better than Mr. Gomilla
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3081 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:51 pm to
That article is ON POINT!

Look we lost to Alabama and we have no shot at winning the SEC. However we CAN still beat TAMU, ARky and win the bowl game. That is STILL a 10-3 record. That ain't mediocrity to me and it's STILL better than almost everybody in the SEC besides Alabama. I'm hyped for Saturday's game...........even if a few message board idiots aren't.

This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15583 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:56 pm to
LSU fans as a whole are fine but there are certainly some incredible whining pissing and moaning negative bitches in the fanbase.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:58 pm to
"Nothing to play for"?
bullshite!
I grew up with aTm games. Fkin hate em! Want desperately to be 2-0 against JFF. They play in the middle of a fertile recruiting base that we've depended on for yrs.

I don't like the piggies either. They've ruined many a thanksgiving weekend for me. Fk'em!
A better record=better bowl against a more marquee team= better perception by people outside the program. The most important of those people being high schoolers that are gifted in the art of tackle football.
I hope EVERYBODY brings it !
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:03 pm to
well fricking said....the "world's greatest fans" quit five weekends before the fourth quarter of the bama game and the team knew it. nobody is asking anybody to be a sunshine pumper but this guy is calling out a large portion of tigernation to be something other than the petulant, whining pussies they have become. what's left is a three game season and I really hope that LSU fans use it as an opportunity to support the program like we all know we can.

Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53714 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:04 pm to
I would be thrilled if I could make myself believe that all of the people that Billy is talking about post on this site. You negas just try to bring everyone down to your miserable level. Won't happen here.
Posted by Tiger Brigade
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2012
122 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:39 pm to
Here's the real money quote:

quote:

"But...Bama..."

Again, has it ever occurred to anybody that the reason so many Tiger teams blow off the rest of the schedule might have something to do with the fact that all LSU fans talk about is what Saban is doing in Tuscaloosa? Alabama is on an unprecedented, historical run, even by the standards of great programs. And part of the reason that's going on is because that program focuses on every snap of every game. Not just one game against a rival.


Billy knocks it outta the park with that one.

I don't know of another fanbase in the nation that spends as much time talking about another team's coach. It's time to get over it.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:53 pm to
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Couldn't have said it better than Mr. Gomilla


quote:

lsu2006


If I remember correctly, you're one of the people this article is referencing.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:55 pm to
This needs to be stickied. It's been terrible on here lately.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

If I remember correctly, you're one of the people this article is referencing.

Wat. I get blasted for being a "pumper" on the daily.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

This needs to be stickied. It's been terrible on here lately.


+1
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

This needs to be stickied. It's been terrible on here lately.


Fact. As bad as I've ever seen this board.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67635 posts
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:13 pm to
Good stuff.
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