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CajunAngele
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Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans



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Seeking to force Pres Obama to make good on his promise you could keep your plan if you liked it. House Republicans and a growing list of Democrats came together and wrote H.R. 3550 “Keep Your Plan Act”.

Written by Congressman Fred Upton the bill can be read online here


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Eric Cantor @GOPLeader

The President just threatened to veto our bipartisan bill to allow you to #KeepYourPlan. twitter.com/GOPLeader/stat…
about 10 hours ago

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BlackHelicopterPilot
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To be fair...I'd like to know the details.

I HATE the "names" they give these bills.

After all..who could possibly be opposed to an "AFFORDABLE Care Act"?


And, I am not really interested in tinkering with this garbage. i'd like to see it ripped out by the roots, burned, and the ashes loaded into a spacecraft and launched into the sun.

ETA: I know you linked the bill. Great job by you. I just don't have the time now to read it and am simply not knee jerking in opposition to O here. You may have read it and have an informed reaction



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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


Anything more than a tweet? Not saying Obama wouldn't do this, but this might just be the GOP trying to add fuel to the fire.

Also this doesn't really seem all that real:




ETA: I could be 100% wrong, but have just never seen anything like this and it saying "The President would" rather than "I would" just seems strange.



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Zahrim
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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


and you are surprised how?

this bill undermines his dictate from last night telling businesses what they have to do, regardless of what the law says. he is the law..









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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


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Also this doesn't really seem all that real:

That looks as phoney as Gorgeous George wrestling match.






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Good. It's a dumb fricking idea anyway.





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So will a Rep add an amendment to this bill stating that ALL congressional staff and WH have to go into the public exchange?

We kept hearing all of the talk, this is the piece of shit, do not good bill, to attach it to.






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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


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ETA: I could be 100% wrong, but have just never seen anything like this and it saying "The President would" rather than "I would" just seems strange.


1. Was likely put out by staffers, so use of "The President would" wouldn't be inappropriate.

2. Assuming #1 isn't the case, given the utter arrogance of this schmuck, would you really be all that surprised to learn that he refers to himself in the third person or uses the "royal we"?



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CajunAngele
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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans



I don't think it is meant to be literally the real veto. It is Cantor tweeting imaging.

It is bipartsan

It boils down to whether you trust Cantor, or not.

If not, oh well.






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Repubs are setting themselves up for a huge backlash...


They will pass this bull shite and then when all of the people realize that this cannot and will not happen, they will be in the same boat as the dems.

The ONLY thing they should be discussing right now is repeal and replace.






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The ONLY thing they should be discussing right now is repeal


I like this

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and replace.


I hate this



It appears that with many issues of Gov power / reach....the argument becomes HOW not WHETHER









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CajunAngele
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Obama said yesterday he would do this.

-He will most likely not veto Mary's Bill.

-This is the GOP version in which Cantor is announcing has gotten bipartisan backing.

-Some dems may not want to touch Mary's version of this bill with a ten foot pole.

-The GOP is as corrupt but they had this idea in 2010 and it went ignored and any criticism of anything Obama tried and will try to blame them. So... now Obama is politically forced to finally agree this is wrong and people should not have gotten cancelled health insurance in an hour long mumbling presser yesterday.

-Or he thinks when he spoke yesterday it is magically done.







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CajunAngele
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This bill and Mary's was in the making BEFORE Obama's famous presser yesterday.

-dump both bills (pubs and dems) ?

-Obama magically fixed everything just by his declaration yesterday?

The clusterfrick continues.

Cantor is basically saying Obama does not want to work with anybody not even the dems half the time.





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It appears that with many issues of Gov power / reach....the argument becomes HOW not WHETHER


I am with you bu tno way any of these assclowns of either party would go for "repeal and get the Hell out of the way"






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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


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Anything more than a tweet?


From Obama's speech:
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"Insurers can extend current plans that otherwise would be canceled into 2014 and Americans whose plans have been canceled can choose to re-enroll in the same kind of plan," Obama said. "This fix won't solve every problem for every person, but it's going to help a lot of people. Doing more would require work with Congress."


The WH veto threat issued yesterday:
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The White House released a statement Thursday evening saying President Barack Obama would veto a bill introduced by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich) which would allow individuals to keep their health plans that had been canceled under the Affordable Care Act.

"H.R. 3350 rolls back the progress made by allowing insurers to continue to sell new plans that deploy practices such as not offering coverage for people with pre-existing conditions, charging women more than men, and continuing yearly caps on the amount of care that enrollees receive," the statement reads. "The Administration supports policies that allow people to keep the health plans that they have. But, policies that reverse the progress made to extend quality, affordable coverage to millions of uninsured, hardworking, middle class families are not the solution."
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Obama, benevolent ruler, will allow us to keep our plans for another year, can't do more as it would require Congress to make a change in the law.

Obama will veto any change in the law.

IOW, we can keep our plans ONLY IF the insurance companies break the law (ACA) by offering the plans they offered previously.

Otherwise we can do the same thing as before he gave the damned speech: buy new, more expensive/higher deductible plans with superfluous coverage.

Black man spoke with forked tongue.



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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


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I hate this


Why? There needs to be healthcare reform of some sort.

Pre-existing conditions
lifetime limits
interstate commerce
tort reform






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BlackHelicopterPilot
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There needs to be healthcare reform of some sort.


Not certain I agree

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Pre-existing conditions


Not sure Gov mandates SHOULD intervene

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lifetime limits


Ditto


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interstate commerce


I'm good with this since the current prohibition on it is a Gov intervention

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tort reform


Ditto






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MississippiLSUfan
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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


It's a play being acted out for next year's campaign commercials. Can't anyone else see that?

The Dems who are at risk next year NEED to be able to say that they signed on to this. Every one of them will.

Obama vetoes bill and these disingenuous pricks can say that they fought the good fight...just like their opponents did with the shut down but they tried to do it without hurting anybody..

This is the result of their big meeting with Obama a few days ago.

A back room deal to fool the sheep. And it will probably work. Republicans should call this bill exactly what it is...a con on the voter and walk away from it.






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re: Obama Threatens To Veto Bipartisan Bill To Fix Cancelled Plans


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The Dems who are at risk next year NEED to be able to say that they signed on to this. Every one of them will.

Obama vetoes bill and these disingenuous pricks can say that they fought the good fight...just like their opponents did with the shut down but they tried to do it without hurting anybody..

This is the result of their big meeting with Obama a few days ago.

possible

and this may be why Obama rushed out of nowhere to change the regs yesterday, b/c too many GOPers were joining in with DEMs. the only way Obama could win the political game was by eliminating any political points that the GOP could score

the problem now is that if Obama vetoes the "GOP" bill (there are 2, landrieu's and the one in the OP), then he's going to allow the GOP to score MAJOR political points. that's EXACTLY what they want to happen






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Let him do it. Another bag of cement around his ankle.





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