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Nationwide Roth IRA

Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:08 pm
Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 2:08 pm
I know people on here say great things about Vanguard. My question is I know there is a $3000 initial start up for Vanguard, but I already have my 401k through Nationwide and they offer Roth IRA's with no minimum start up. Does anyone have an opinion on Investing with Nationwide? Thanks
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:05 pm to
They're not all 3k. Some are as low as 1k but it depends on the fund you choose.

I don't think the nationwide has the history of performance Vanguard does but it's probably better than nothing.

I'd suggest saving up the 1k min and opening a vanguard acct then contributing to it as you can.
Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:38 pm to
Oh OK. I was thinking it was 3k just to start up an account with Vanguard. So I can just set up an account and get started with 1k? Are their still good funds available for 1k?
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:54 pm to
vttsx is a 2060 target retirement fund with a 1k min investment.
Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:56 pm to
How good of a fund is this one, and wouldnt it be a smart idea to diversify. Is there more funds with a 1k minimum?
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:59 pm to
Bro you stealing my ideas
Posted by LSU9102
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:59 pm to
LINK

Vanguard Star Fund
$1000 min to get started. 4 star mutual fund.
it's a moderate fund.
Posted by RickAstley
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

How good of a fund is this one, and wouldnt it be a smart idea to diversify. Is there more funds with a 1k minimum?


You need to spend some time researching the available funds and the required minimum investment. Any target retirement fund will be diversified according the target date of the fund. So if you put $1k into a target retirement fund you should already have accomplished a certain level of diversification.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:02 pm to
Total stock market and total bond

So yea pretty diversified
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

vttsx is a 2060 target retirement fund with a 1k min investment.



My experience with Vanguard was you still need the $3,000 because their money market fund, which is the sweep account, requires a 3k minimum.

SO it works like this:

Open Money Market - $3,000
Once deposited. Take $3,000 and invest in Funds/Indexes that require less than that.

I had to jump through this hurdle for my ETFs even though they have no minimum requirements.

quote:

Total stock market and total bond

So yea pretty diversified


People with argue that Total Stock market has some gaps, namely smaller cap companies.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 4:09 pm
Posted by RickAstley
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:09 pm to
Right, I am pretty heavy on stock mutual funds. December and January are going to be fun months reallocating as well as figuring out my yearly contributions toward 401(k), roth ira, and taxable. There is nothing wrong with investing into a retirement target fund while one studies investing strategies and builds up some money.
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:12 pm to
Dude I read the past 50 pages of this board over the last few days and I've learned so much
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:12 pm to
The one part I never got about "reallocation" is this idea that it happens once a year. I contribute throughout the year and buy whatever needs to be bought to keep my allocation percentages on target.

Why the hell are people "off" at the end of the year?
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:13 pm to
I read bogleheads a lot too

Better read up with that PETE cash comin soon
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 4:14 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:14 pm to
I think some people just have a set amount into each fund per month or quarter and don't fix as they go like you do
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

I think some people just have a set amount into each fund per month or quarter and don't fix as they go like you do



Ya, I guess that would happen over a quarterly basis.

I contribute every 2 weeks so it doesn't have much time to move one way or the other.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:19 pm to
Don't have steady income yet so I haven't decided how ill do it
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1994 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:31 pm to
I have an auto investment ongoing for my 401(k) and my taxable account every pay period (bimonthly). Occasionally I will log in and check the performance of each mutual fund versus the stock market as a whole, and perhaps make a decision on whether or not to taper what I am investing in one fund, or switch to another.

Right now I have set funds that I am investing in, as this year has been pretty much my launching pad for my retirement portfolio, emergency fund, taxable account and so on... I will weigh my allocation percentages in December between what I have in stocks vs bonds and readjust to my age accordingly. I am not as proactive as others with my accounts although I do like having a set strategy to work off of rather than constantly winging things.
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:43 pm to
yeah that's the idea, but it's looking like i might not have what i was hoping
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

My experience with Vanguard was you still need the $3,000 because their money market fund, which is the sweep account, requires a 3k minimum.



I was able to open a sweep fund with no minimum by having a brokerage account FWIW.

They still insisted on the 3k for many mutual fund
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