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Realistic Expectations for LSU football over a decade

Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:43 am
Posted by dante
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:43 am
A buddy of mine and I had this conversation several years ago about what we thought were realistic expectations for the program.

1 NC every 10 years.(In the hunt late Nov 3-4 times)
3 SEC Championships
4-5 Top 10 finishes
Should finish in the top 25 every year

Thoughts?


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:45 am to
10 NC or what is the point of playing the game?
Posted by dante
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:46 am to
quote:

10 NC or what is the point of playing the game
REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:47 am to
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3 SEC Championships


makes sense. i have said the same. one every 3 years basically or i would gladly take 3 in 10 years. Miles has not met this mark(unless he wins the SEC next year). Miles is grossly overpaid for the product he has put on the field.

I will not even compare him to the crimson dwarf. We do not even want to go there.
Posted by dante
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:52 am to
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I will not even compare him to the crimson dwarf. We do not even want to go there
quote:

Miles has not met this mark(unless he wins the SEC next year).
But if the dwarf was still in the NFL, would Miles have met the mark?
Posted by TigerNE
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:06 am to
To my eyes, those expectations are sane and realistic.

I don't have the records in front of me, but if memory serves, the second season after LSU appears in the national title game have been so-so (comparatively). This season and '09 fall into that category. I can't remember '05. Was that the year that ended with a loss to Texas? Anyway, I'm not buying the "decline" talk. At all. If recent history holds, the Tigers will be back to the 11-2 range next season, even better in '15.

Let me ask your question another way: How many years out of 10 do you think LSU should make the four-team playoff.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:08 am to
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How many years out of 10 do you think LSU should make the four-team playoff.


3

Posted by dante
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:08 am to
2 and in the hunt another 2
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:10 am to
Yes I agree
Posted by Fishhead
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:12 am to
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I can't remember '05
Katrina season, no off weeks. LSU finished 11-2 and beat the ever living chit outta Miami in the Peach Bowl. Miles' first season at LSU. Texas in the Cotton was, what, 2002??
Posted by TigerNE
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:13 am to
Definitely. 2-3 would be awesome.


Here's one four you: If LSU made the playoffs next year, and you had the cash to buy two seats to the semis or two seats to the championship, which would you pick? (For discussion's sake, assume travel isn't a hardship.)

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:15 am to
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10 NC or what is the point of playing the game?



Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:16 am to
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Realistic Expectations for LSU football over a decade

Mine, in general, is to be a legitimate contender for ATL, not a darkhorse but a team that no one would be surprised if we won. This year we are solidly middle tier, like 2008 and 2009. Hopefully it will just be this year.
Posted by jmswp4
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:17 am to
Dumbass. I guess you presuppose that none of the other schools in the conference have any aspirations.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:18 am to
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But if the dwarf was still in the NFL, would Miles have met the mark?





How would that change anything? No, he would not have, UNLESS he wins a SEC title next year which I highly doubt. Miles has been here 9 years. We are using a miles 10 year tenure as the example here. Not sure why you are referring to Nicky Bling.

Unless you want to use his 3 NC's in the last 4 years as a comparator. Or his 3 NC's in 6 years as well. This year being his 7th year.
Posted by catholictigerfan
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:19 am to
quote:

1 NC every 10 years.(In the hunt late Nov 3-4 times)
3 SEC Championships
4-5 Top 10 finishes
Should finish in the top 25 every year


i would be ok with this. But if Bama continues to play the way they do it may be difficult to have the first two
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:22 am to
It would be interesting to see if you took LSU's average, end of the year ranking, over the last 10 years and see where that is based on his compensation. Since apparently he is the 7th highest paid coach, on average, is his team ranked close to 7th over the last 10 yrs.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:23 am to
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Dumbass.


irony

quote:

I guess you presuppose that none of the other schools in the conference have any aspirations.



Nobody is even discussing NC's. Just sec titles. You do not think we can do that? With our flagship university? The talent per capita? With our facilities? The $$$ paid to miles? wow, you really have low standards.

Now go get some scope and wash away your Miles dick breath.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:24 am to
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How would that change anything?


does this really need to be explained to you?
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:30 am to
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How would that change anything?
LSU would probably have another NC in 2011 if Saban were still in the NFL and LSU probably wins the West in 2009 with a chance for a SEC championship.
My only point is that Saban's success has limited Miles success to a point.
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