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Do you wish the SEC would've got FSU?

Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:34 am
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:34 am
You think they'd be a better fit than A&M or Mizzo?
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Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:38 am to
Adding Florida State would do nothing for revenue for the SEC and Florida would never allow it.
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Posted by Seymour
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:38 am to
Definitely a better fit than Mizzou but the SEC already had the Florida TV market and not St. Louis/Kansas City, which is what it's really all about.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:42 am to
It would've been cooler, and made 100x more sense, but like stated above, it's all about the TV market
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:44 am to
From a pure athletics, cultural, and geographical perspective absolutely.
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Posted by PurpGold 14-0
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Do you wish the SEC would've got FSU?


For football it would have been cool, but it would have been absolutely awesome for baseball.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:46 am to
Yes, Florida is the third biggest state in the country and only having one team from the State does not lock-up the tv market. Because of FSU being in the ACC the SEC loses viewers to FSU games and ACC games. No matter how crappy you think the ACC is, the SEC is still losing viewers and that is reflected in the Nielson ratings which is how networks determine what to charge advertisers. Sure there is upfront money from CBS and ESPN and the SEC network will get fees as does ESPN but they still need advertisers and still need as many viewers as possible.

Florida State would have been a big benefit to the SEC. In fact the SEC back in the 90s asked FSU to join.

They would be better than Missouri by a long shot in terms of tv viewers both in Florida and the country.
Posted by Waffle House
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:48 am to
Strictly from a fan perspective, I would rather FSU than Mizzou or A&M. FSU and Clemson to be exact.

They don't make sense financially, and they would be blocked, but I think they would be much more enjoyable to have in the conference.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:49 am to
Agreed. The SEC would essentially own all of Florida.
Posted by theBeard
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:51 am to
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Florida would never allow it.


this x 1000
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:52 am to
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Yes, Florida is the third biggest state in the country and only having one team from the State does not lock-up the tv market. Because of FSU being in the ACC the SEC loses viewers to FSU games and ACC games. No matter how crappy you think the ACC is, the SEC is still losing viewers and that is reflected in the Nielson ratings which is how networks determine what to charge advertisers.


You're dumbing it down way too much as far as TV revenue goes.

The BTN makes money when metro areas pick up the BTN I assume the same is for the SEC TV.

Most sets in Florida already have the SEC TV package I would guess.
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:59 am to
Not a chance in hell.


Why would I want a school that denied us 20 years ago because it was "too hard" in now?

Give me UNC/VT and we are set.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:19 pm to
Bowden knew exactly what he was doing when they joined the ACC. He knew he would be just another team in the SEC. In 1990, there was no Miami or VT in the ACC. Back then you had Clemson, Georgia Tech, and that was about it.

And when they joined, Georgia Tech had just showed you could have an above-average team and cheese your way through the ACC and win a share of the NC.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:22 pm to
nope

would rather have Va Tech over FSU
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:27 pm to
Honestly? I think Mizzou and A&M have assimilated pretty well into the SEC culture. Missouri football games and A&M football games alike are routinely packed. Mizzou has great baseball and basketball programs as well.

The only difference is that Mizzou is academically superior to all SEC schools except Vandy and Georgia and, maybe, Florida. But that doesn't really seem to matter much.

Both A&M and Mizzou enjoy their sports and competition, and both have already enjoyed quite a bit of success. The schools are supportive of their sports programs as is shown by both schools dumping a bunch of money into stadium renovations, and both fan bases are as rabid as most in the SEC.

So Mizzou grills brats instead of frying chicken. Whoopdeedoo. They drink hard and revel in the glory of their school, just like A&M, and just like the rest of the SEC. This "SEC culture" argument is a bunch of nonsense. Both schools fit and fit well.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:39 pm to
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Honestly? I think Mizzou and A&M have assimilated pretty well into the SEC culture. Missouri football games and A&M football games alike are routinely packed. Mizzou has great baseball and basketball programs as well.



I used to live in Columbia, Missouri. They really don't care about football. Faurot field is about the size of Vaught-Hemmingway, probably smaller. They are more like Kentucky and Vanderbilt. If they have a good football team, they'll support it. But basketball is king.

When I lived there, they were still Big 12. They could have finished 0-12 in football but beat Kansas once in basketball and it would be the GREATEST YEAR EVER.

They treat Norm Stewart like he was their Bear Bryant, and he never even got them to the Final Four. One of the sports bars I used to go to had all kinds of memorabilia, and like 90 percent of it was from that one week they were #1 in basketball.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:40 pm to
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nope

Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:41 pm to
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I used to live in Columbia, Missouri. They really don't care about football. Faurot field is about the size of Vaught-Hemmingway, probably smaller.


are you trolling or just ignorant and speaking completely out of your arse?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

are you trolling or just ignorant and speaking completely out of your arse?


No, jackass. When I was there, capacity was around 58,000. We had a "guess the attendance" pool every week. The stadium didn't even sell out at the beginning of the year that Chase Daniel had them at #1 for the Big 12 Championship.

I see now that it's like 70,000. I guess they now count the grass end zone as seating. Nobody even sat there 5 years ago. There was no demand for it.
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