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LES MILES = Bobby Bowden of the SEC
Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:51 am
Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:51 am
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Players want to play for him.
Media loves him.
Yes he's quirky but he's a DAMN STRONG football coach
Players want to play for him.
Media loves him.
Yes he's quirky but he's a DAMN STRONG football coach
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:54 am to TigerFan244
Players want to play for him - Check
Media Loves him - Check
Hes damn strong football coach - Ummm.. I dont think so. But thanks for playing.. 2 out of 3 aint bad
Media Loves him - Check
Hes damn strong football coach - Ummm.. I dont think so. But thanks for playing.. 2 out of 3 aint bad
Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:56 am to TigerFan244
more like larry coker to a degree.I wouldn't say Phil Fulmer but they do have some similarities.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:58 am to budlight34
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Hes damn strong football coach - Ummm.. I dont think so.
Thinking has nothing to do with it, because if it did the numbers would make this type of post impossible.
By any standards in any time and in any sport, Miles' accomplishments here at LSU would clearly include him in any discussion of "damn strong coach."
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:00 am to budlight34
id say hes damn strong when he does play teams that are equally talented
but teams that are not as talented he only plays up to their level or less
but teams that are not as talented he only plays up to their level or less
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:09 am to budlight34
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Hes damn strong football coach - Ummm.. I dont think so. But thanks for playing.. 2 out of 3 aint bad
The man has a team that averages 10 wins a season, wins one NC, and played for another. All because of a few close losses each year people think he is an idiot. Is he the best coach in the country? Maybe not, but he is pretty darn good.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:10 am to Bmath
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All because of a few close losses each year people think he is an idiot.
nah, its not that. Its when he opens his mouth he confirms that he is, in fact, not the sharpest knife. I like when he does funny post-game interviews and makes us forget that he just botched a game LSU should have won though!
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:12 am to lsucoonass
So if Miles were to be hired in 2000, do you believe he would be as successful as he is today? I would say no. Here is the deal sunshine. When you get handed the keys to the fastest latest greatest car, you're gonna win most races. You're acting as if Nick Saban wouldn't do the same thing and you're right. He would do more! Les Miles didn't build anything here bro, it was built. Bobby Bowden started from scratch and built FSU from the ground up. Eventually after he got up in age, FSU fell off a little, but that happens. So please don't insult Bobby Bowden by comparing him and CLM. arse clown
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:16 am to Elleshoe
I wouldn't confuse one man's regional diction and personal verbiage with his intelligence. Considering half this board is a bunch of Yat's and Coonasses, I find it laughable that fans are embarrassed by the way Miles speaks.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:17 am to Bmath
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I find it laughable that fans are embarrassed by the way Miles speaks.
I'm not talking about the way he speaks. I'm talking about the things he actually says. Like he forgot to call timeout against Ole Miss because he was too busy setting up for the FG block. If only there were a way to momentarily pause the game to give us more time to set up for the FG block....
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:20 am to TigerFan244
I'm gonna go with Mack brown.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:21 am to Bmath
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The man has a team that averages 10 wins a season, wins one NC, and played for another. All because of a few close losses each year people think he is an idiot. Is he the best coach in the country? Maybe not, but he is pretty darn good.
A normal fan would hold the next coach up against the accomplishments of the former...you'd like them to meet and surpass him, assuming he was solid. In any measurable way, Miles has done that at LSU...despite following the first coach in decades that helped bring LSU a national title and national prestige again.
And yet, it isn't enough.
Instead, Miles is not held up and compared to Nick Saban while at LSU. He's compared to this non-existent Saban at LSU based on the misconceptions LSU fans have that had Saban stayed at LSU he'd have had the same success he's currently having at BAMA. All this despite the fact that Saban's teams only lost less than 3 games a season one time. All this despite the fact that we all know BAMA exists in an entirely different SEC than we do. An SEC with favorable schedules, that gets do-overs, that has the conference office set up in its home state, etc. We seem to forget that simply being "Nick Saban" was not enough to get the SEC to even pay attention to his bitching about having to play the Friday after Thanksgiving. We also seem to forget that once BAMA's coach, the minute they switched the Iron Bowl to that day, he bitched and it immediately was moved back and LSU was thrown onto Friday again.
If Miles was being compared to BAMA's coach whileat BAMA, then I could respect that. Miles isn't being compared to Saban as BAMA's coach. If he was, he'd lose but the argument would be close. He's being compared to a fantasy, and in that battle he's never EVER had a shot.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:22 am to Cajn_tiger_.blank
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All because of a few close losses each year people think he is an idiot.
It's who he loses to and how he loses! It's his clock management skills! It's underperforming against lesser competition, Tennessee 2010 classic example of poor clock management and underperforming against lesser competition. It's running option right a million times against Bama 1/9/12, emberassing the crap out of the program on the biggest stage. It's letting Lee stand on the sideline with his helmet on warming up the whole 2nd half of that game, believing he was gonna get a fair opportunity to play because JJ was a cluster frick in that game. This and much more is why half the fan base doesn't like him.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:23 am to Cajn_tiger_.blank
quote:To be fair, Bowden was probably FSU's second HC. The first one, last name Petersen, took FSU to the inaugural Peach Bowl to play a certain team from Baton Rouge. And that certain team (LSU) beat Petersen's FSU in it. Bowden came to FSU later and built on what was already a decent foundation.
Bobby Bowden started from scratch and built FSU from the ground up.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:24 am to Cajn_tiger_.blank
Aside from Sebastian, Les has had much better kickers than Bowden.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:25 am to TigerFan244
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:26 am to budlight34
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Hes damn strong football coach - Ummm.. I dont think so.
lulz
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:30 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
A normal fan would hold the next coach up against the accomplishments of the former...you'd like them to meet and surpass him, assuming he was solid. In any measurable way, Miles has done that at LSU...despite following the first coach in decades that helped bring LSU a national title and national prestige again.
And yet, it isn't enough.
Instead, Miles is not held up and compared to Nick Saban while at LSU. He's compared to this non-existent Saban at LSU based on the misconceptions LSU fans have that had Saban stayed at LSU he'd have had the same success he's currently having at BAMA. All this despite the fact that Saban's teams only lost less than 3 games a season one time. All this despite the fact that we all know BAMA exists in an entirely different SEC than we do. An SEC with favorable schedules, that gets do-overs, that has the conference office set up in its home state, etc. We seem to forget that simply being "Nick Saban" was not enough to get the SEC to even pay attention to his bitching about having to play the Friday after Thanksgiving. We also seem to forget that once BAMA's coach, the minute they switched the Iron Bowl to that day, he bitched and it immediately was moved back and LSU was thrown onto Friday again.
If Miles was being compared to BAMA's coach whileat BAMA, then I could respect that. Miles isn't being compared to Saban as BAMA's coach. If he was, he'd lose but the argument would be close. He's being compared to a fantasy, and in that battle he's never EVER had a shot.
One of my favorite posts of the year...
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:31 am to JawjaTigah
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To be fair, Bowden was probably FSU's second HC. The first one, last name Petersen, took FSU to the inaugural Peach Bowl to play a certain team from Baton Rouge. And that certain team (LSU) beat Petersen's FSU in it. Bowden came to FSU later and built on what was already a decent foundation.
8 bowl appearances in twenty nine years! Yep they were a juggernaut!
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:32 am to GeauxTigerTM
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If Miles was being compared to BAMA's coach whileat BAMA, then I could respect that. Miles isn't being compared to Saban as BAMA's coach. If he was, he'd lose but the argument would be close. He's being compared to a fantasy, and in that battle he's never EVER had a shot.
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