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CAD703X
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So do you disagree that being able to walk (run) away from an accident that like is impressive giving the magnitude of the collision?


so you're praising tesla for building a massive firewall between the passenger compartment & the bomb cluster under the hood??

seems that $100,000 car has alot of heavy metal in the cage to offset the inevitable explosions.






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htownjeep
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So do you disagree that being able to walk (run) away from an accident that like is impressive giving the magnitude of the collision?

That single incident is impressive from a standpoint of driver safety (inside the car). I think what his point is that the batteries are sort of a time bomb. What if you get in a fender bender at the front of your neighborhood and the batteries are upset and compromised? boom






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TigerBait1127
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And didn't you say you weren't in here defending Tesla earlier? Because that's all you seem to be doing right now.



I never said anything like that. I said that the Tesla is a luxury toy (which you repeatedly ignored). Blanket statements are silly any way. Situations should be looked at individually before forming an opinion.

Once again reading comprehension issues. I haven't defended the trailer hitch fire either




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so you're praising tesla for building a massive firewall between the passenger compartment & the bomb cluster under the hood??



no, i'm praising tesla for keeping the driver safe during a high speed collision with 3 impact points



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CAD703X
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instructions from GM.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

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After completing the ignition shutdown process, ensure the shutdown of the vehicle's 12v electrical system. As with other EVs and HEVs, the 12v system controls the high-voltage system. By removing the 12v power, the battery's relays, which allow the high-voltage current to flow through the vehicle, are opened and the circuit is broken. In the Volt, this is accomplished by using the special cut location provided in the rear of the vehicle. On opening the rear hatchback, an access panel can be on the driver's sidewall of the cargo area. This access panel displays a logo of a firefighter's helmet to indicate its purpose (photo 11). Behind the access panel you will notice a bundle of wires in a black wrap with GM's "first responder yellow cut tape" attached to it (photo 12). Make two cuts, one on either side of the yellow cut tape, to take a section of the cable out. By cutting in this designated location, you isolate both sources of 12v power—the 12v battery and the APM—from the relays in the high-voltage battery. This is designed to ensure that the relays discussed earlier open and break the circuit. Also be aware that this designated cut point actually severs the 12v positive cable rather than the 12v negative cable. Although we have always been taught to first disconnect or cut the negative side of the battery, it is necessary to cut the positive side in this application to cut off both sources of 12v electricity.




feel like james bond yet trying to diffuse a nuclear bomb?

FOR GOD'S SAKE CUT THE YELLOW WIRE FIRST!!!





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Fossil fuels at are a finite resource. However long you think we have, it's finite. We have no choice but to eventually develop something else, and electricity can be generated in many other ways. Most are still too expensive, and some turn out not to be viable, but they get more efficient every year, and we are going to need a replacement sooner or later.


I'm going to agree with this. My problem with the Tesla is they are aimed at a high priced market when testing of these products are still underway and recharging stations are nearly non-existant. Also the gov't is invested in this and pushing it down our throat.

As we begin to run out of fossil fuels the market will realize this and the FREE MARKET will respond. The green movement believes the gov't is the answer while the free market is discovering more oil on a regular basis.

Why not let life progress naturally?? Don't force products on us that aren't fully developed and prepared for in the field?? Try starting with small inexpensive cars that people can afford and allow the market place charging stations where needed. Let the free market thrive and tell the gov't to fukoff.

Disclaimer: I'm not sure the gov't has put our tax money in Tesla. Tesla is just a representative of how I detest the way this electric car business is progressing and gov't involvement.






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CAD703X
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Disclaimer: I'm not sure the gov't has put our tax money in Tesla. Tesla is just a representative of how I detest the way this electric car business is progressing and gov't involvement.


OH THEY HAVE. read my quotes on the previous page.






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I said that the Tesla is a luxury toy


I only know of 2 in this area, both owned by doctors. They say they are fast. They say travel is limited due to short range between charges and lack of places to charge. These 2 are most definitely expensive toys as most of the doctor's travels are limited to fossil fuel burners.






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the federal government as well as the state government of California, where Tesla is located, offer substantial amounts of money as incentives


Ahhhh, you are soo right. Fed. gov't and Cal. are both running deep in the red. We still have oil but our MONEY ran out a long time ago.






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I never said anything like that.


My mistake. That;'s why I asked instead of making a statement.

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Once again reading comprehension issues


Or just making sure I had the right poster. Guess getting facts straight means reading comprehension is lacking.






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The first one involved a very major accident at high speeds. T

Wrong, wrong, wrong

We are still waiting on what happens to a Tesla in a 2 car accident. The 1st and 3rd fires were from running over road debris
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Company spokeswoman Liz Jarvis-Shean said the fire Tuesday was caused by a large metallic object hitting one of the battery pack's modules in the pricey Model S.




Hes at a redlight at an intersection. Sitting all alone






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TigerBait1127
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We are still waiting on what happens to a Tesla in a 2 car accident.


you realize tesla's have been in 2 car accidents before

Here's a deadly one:

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Tesla in head-on crash crossed into oncoming traffic, police say. Laguna Beach police said they are continuing to investigate a head-on traffic collision that involved a Tesla car and a Honda Accord.

Authorities received calls reporting the accident around 6:40 a.m. Tuesday, according to Laguna Beach Police Sgt. Louise Callus. Emergency personnel found two vehicles involved in the collision and debris scattered across all lanes of Laguna Canyon Road between El Toro Road and State Route 73, a police statement said.

Two men inside a "severely damaged" Honda Accord were declared dead at the scene, officials said. The driver of the Tesla was transported to a hospital with minor injuries, Callus said.

The "preliminary details are that the driver of the Tesla crossed over into opposing traffic for an unknown reason and hit the Honda Accord," Callus said in an email Tuesday. "We are opening a criminal investigation into the matter so that we can thoroughly look into everything. There have been no arrests or citations given at this point, but we are very early on in this investigation."
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=821_1367344455#4hKCfE6sgb0KFlJw.99


LINK



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Oh, and again.....how long before one of these hot wheels will be able to pull my boat?

How big a boat? The SUV model will certainly be able to pull a boat. Electric motors have gobs of torque at all RPMs. The Model S could pull a boat if you put a hitch on it. (just don't drive over that hitch, right?)






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You are going on record that hydrocarbons are 100% finite?

Everything is finite, right?






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htownjeep
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Everything is finite, right?

No






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24 ft. bay boat





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Korkstand
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how about some FACTS for a change:
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”At the end of the day, other carmakers are subsidizing Tesla,” said Thilo Koslowski, a Gartner analyst.
They do so by choice. Also, Tesla's adjusted gross margin (which exclude the energy credits) was 21% (better than almost all auto manufacturers) and expected to increase further.
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yet kork claims tesla has no advantage over any other car maker.
Because they don't. This is like saying I have an advantage over you if I bother to clip coupons.
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just a good ol' fashioned american market-driven success story
How can you be so blind to reality? The only reason almost anything gets made in the US is because of tax breaks, credits, or incentives of some kind. If we leave everything up to the free market, even more shite would be outsourced and our job market and economy would stagnate. Do you have any idea how many industries have been kickstarted or propped up by government funding at one point or another? What do you think government funding of our highways did for car sales? Was this unfair to the thousands of other companies who weren't building cars or selling gas?

Open your eyes and your mind a little bit.






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Korkstand
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Try starting with small inexpensive cars that people can afford and allow the market place charging stations where needed.
It's pretty well agreed upon that Tesla has the right strategy by targeting the high end first. Margins are better, and that allows for more R&D to bring costs down to make mass-market cars profitable. It's a very common and successful strategy in many industries.






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Everything is finite, right?
No







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Korkstand
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24 ft. bay boat

Tesla's first SUV (the Model X) is actually a crossover, and it will certainly be capable of towing as well or better than most vehicles in its class. Electric motors are actually pretty perfectly suited to towing since their torque curves are very wide.






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