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I Guess The Saints Did Have A Bully Shortly
Posted on 11/7/13 at 7:21 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 7:21 am
Maybe this is why Olin Kreutz didn't last with us. 
If Yall remember Olin broke the jaw of teammate Fred Miller in an off-the-field field incident right before he left the Bears.
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Former Bears linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer joined Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes on Wednesday to discuss his history with being bullied in an NFL locker room.“The first year I filled in for (Brian) Urlacher when he was on injured reserve (in 2004) for a large part of the year, I hated coming into work because of Olin (Kreutz.) He was a jerk. He was riding me because I was the third-year guy, or second-year guy trying to fill in for a super star. I can relate in the sense that you’re going to have people in your workplace that you don’t necessarily like.
If Yall remember Olin broke the jaw of teammate Fred Miller in an off-the-field field incident right before he left the Bears.
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 7:23 am to Meateye
Not like Kreutz had any room to talk, dude was fricking horrible
Posted on 11/7/13 at 7:39 am to Brettesaurus Rex
It was horrible that he just quit.
I hope and expect he went home and punched himself in the face.
I hope and expect he went home and punched himself in the face.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 7:39 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Stayed long enough to stick it to the Bears and then he quit on us. a-hole.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 8:27 am to lsutigers1992
TP story
"There is a level of respect that you give to the guys that came before you," Strief said. "Now, the talk of a $15,000 trip, that's too much. I'm sorry, that's too much. Now, me and Jahri did a rookie dinner where we took these guys out, and I'll tell you what, we did it as best as we could. And we spent good money on it, and we had a great time. And that was as much of a thank you from us for the things that the older guys teach you ...
"We've also had people that absolutely refused to pay for anything. Now, that guy didn't get taped to a goal post, but that guy also wasn't everybody's best friend. Because we all did it. Again, it's not something where we're holding you down and forcing you -- and not to mention, you're gonna get it back over the course of your career anyways. ... But there's definitely a line."
Posted on 11/7/13 at 8:30 am to blueslover
quote:I was thinking of the goal post taping when this story happened.
"There is a level of respect that you give to the guys that came before you," Strief said. "Now, the talk of a $15,000 trip, that's too much. I'm sorry, that's too much. Now, me and Jahri did a rookie dinner where we took these guys out, and I'll tell you what, we did it as best as we could. And we spent good money on it, and we had a great time. And that was as much of a thank you from us for the things that the older guys teach you ...
"We've also had people that absolutely refused to pay for anything. Now, that guy didn't get taped to a goal post, but that guy also wasn't everybody's best friend. Because we all did it. Again, it's not something where we're holding you down and forcing you -- and not to mention, you're gonna get it back over the course of your career anyways. ... But there's definitely a line."
It goes to show that there's a level of hazing that's ok.
No one seems to mind getting taped.
You just have to know not to go over the line.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 8:31 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:03 am to Hoodoo Man
getting taped, carrying pads, paying for dinner, etc. that's all the norm around the league. I have no problem with that, its good bonding and a little hazing that is all good and fun. look at vaccaro's face.
Now the shite that's been in the news, thats just fricked up.
Now the shite that's been in the news, thats just fricked up.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:11 am to htran90
don't know about Sweeting's face though
More like the guy who had multiple cavity searches from a traffic stop
More like the guy who had multiple cavity searches from a traffic stop
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:45 am to blueslover
And who was the rookie tight end who got hit in the face with a sack of quarters? Detached his retia I believe...now that was way over the line.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:53 am to Lovethutigahs
Cam Cleeland - face full of hurt by a sock full of nickels.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:56 am to TigerPimpNationTrank
there's some ripe stories from Saints camps of old.
One of my favorites- first camp in 1967, rookies were on the 2nd floor of the dorm they were staying in. Past bedtime they were still playing music. Crusty veteran Doug Atkins pulled out a shotgun and shot it out the window up towards the 2nd floor. They moved the next night and there was never any late music again.
One of my favorites- first camp in 1967, rookies were on the 2nd floor of the dorm they were staying in. Past bedtime they were still playing music. Crusty veteran Doug Atkins pulled out a shotgun and shot it out the window up towards the 2nd floor. They moved the next night and there was never any late music again.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:02 am to Hoodoo Man
quote:
It goes to show that there's a level of hazing that's ok.
No one seems to mind getting taped
a lot of it is a parody of what used to happen at this point - so its a bit easier to laugh off. and like strief says, i think A dinner can easily be chalked up to "im new, i want to get to know all of you and be a part of the group, thanks for taking the time to take interest in my well being with the team" --- shouldnt be forced, but in that boat id likely do it without it even being asked.
whats tough is that the line of joking around between friends can vary widely individual to individual and in these cases not all coworkers are even remotely friends.
plus the idiots that go ENTIRELY to far, but i think thats generally not common.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:05 am to blueslover
Trust me I get it. I was in a fraternity that hazed a bunch so I understand that ultimately it brings people together. However, with the NFL being such a huge industry, at what point do the owners step in and try to stop this. They are paying these rookies pretty good money, albeit not as much as in the past, and the hazing must put stress on these players(mentally and physically) that could affect their on the field performance.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:10 am to kyledavis
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I was in a fraternity that hazed a bunch so I understand that ultimately it brings people together
you dont think there were better ways to do that?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:20 am to NoSaint
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you dont think there were better ways to do that?
Don't be a pussy. JK. No seriously. It is different because in a fraternity you don't have to join but these guys have no real choice. I just think it is dumb in the NFL considering the amount of money that is on the line.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:33 am to NoSaint
quote:There's nothing that brings bros together in a fraternity like some good ole homoerotic buttsex and naked fun time.
you dont think there were better ways to do that?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:42 am to Meateye
Olin probably got bullied himself when he got to the Saints. That's why his punk arse quit.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:13 am to kyledavis
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It is different because in a fraternity you don't have to join but these guys have no real choice. I just think it is dumb in the NFL considering the amount of money that is on the line.
while we may disagree some on the greek issue - ill agree very much that players have no choice to be there, and there is entirely too much invested in them to be messing around with anything that risks a guy feeling alienated, out of place, or like he doesnt trust the guy next to him.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:42 am to The Sad Banana
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There's nothing that brings bros together in a fraternity like some good ole homoerotic buttsex and naked fun time.
Hartley agrees.
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