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The Bad Lieutenant: N.O. - why do you think it was a huge flop?

Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Weebie
NOLA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:27 pm
The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans

This film was well received by the critics, had a decent sized $25M production budget, and starred a big name blockbuster actor. However it only brought in a little over $5M from the box office ($10M gross total, but the studios typically get around 52-55% of that number). this movie lost at least $20M.

why do you think it flopped the way it did?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:31 pm to
is that the nic cage one?
Posted by ColaTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
2193 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:35 pm to
It was too weird for some people. And I don't believe Nic Cage is a big box office draw. It's too bad because Nic Cage is the best leading man fit for Werner Herzog since Klaus Kinski.
Posted by Weebie
NOLA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:38 pm to
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And I don't believe Nic Cage is a big box office draw


not now of course, but back in 2009 he was still a big draw for the most part. about 8 months before this film he was in "Knowing" that did over $183M on a $50M budget.
This post was edited on 11/2/13 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

It was too weird for some people. And I don't believe Nic Cage is a big box office draw. It's too bad because Nic Cage is the best leading man fit for Werner Herzog since Klaus Kinski.


Herzog directed this???


i was thinking this was some shite remake. it was good?? ive got to check it out if it's a herzog flick
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39131 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:45 pm to
I don't think it was widely released. Wasn't promoted much either.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37230 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:52 pm to
It was a combination of a slim release (both timeframe and theater spread), and marketing from marketers that had no idea how to market it (say that 5 times fast).

Herzog doesn't really aim for money, studios know that, so I think everyone is cool with the reception.

quote:

It's too bad because Nic Cage is the best leading man fit for Werner Herzog since Klaus Kinski.



Truth.

Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:54 pm to
I completely understand people not liking this movie but Herzog and unhinged Cage was a win for me.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:06 pm to
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it was good??
It's freaking great.

I don't even remember when this movie came out.
Was it a wide release?
I don't remember any ads.

I didn't see it until a friend forced me to.
I'm glad he did.
Posted by ColaTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
2193 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:08 pm to
It's not a remake per se. It's similar to the original in that they both have "Bad Lieutenant" in the title and the main character is a drug-addled cop. The original is about Christian redemption and this one is just Herzog being Herzog.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66371 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
frick yes. i need to watch
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

I don't think it was widely released. Wasn't promoted much either.


this.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30323 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

I completely understand people not liking this movie but Herzog and unhinged Cage was a win for me


They had me at, "Hey, man. I got on Swiss cotton
underpants."

Script
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:15 pm to
Because it sucked, though he was a baaaad Lieutenant
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30323 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:27 pm to
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Because it sucked


I guess we know which type of person this reviewer would see you as. filmdrunk.uproxx.com

quote:

a lot of people will not like this movie. But I believe I can provide a handy guide to the type of person who will or won’t.

I illustrate by way of a story: Last week for Halloween, I dressed in a giant penguin suit with a fake mustache, an outfit I thought was pretty self-explanatory. And yet, a significant number of people came up to me throughout the night to ask, “What are you supposed to be?”

I mentioned this to a friend (known to FilmDrunk as Punchface Thunderdog), and he said, “People treat costumes the same way they treat tattoos and Pulp Fiction. ‘OMG the suitcase contained his soul, I totally figured it out LOL!’”

Which is to say, the kind of people who see a tattoo of a dragon farting a rose and immediately ask, “What does this mean?” are probably the same kind of people who expect/demand reductive clarification. They require a simple answer like, “Rosebud is a sled!” or “the dragon queef is a metaphor for my dead father!” That way, they can set the thing aside, and keep their lives simple and orderly. Suffice to say, I suspect that this is the type of person who will not enjoy Bad Lieutenant. But if you’re the type who recognizes a certain brand of absurdity and appreciates it for its own merit (or even sees in it a more intuitive, less academic logic, i.e., because it’s fun)… Well. You, sir or madame, are in luck.





Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25269 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:28 pm to
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It was too weird for some people


This. Several scenes were awkward and hard to watch due to the over-the-top ridiculousness.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63147 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 12:35 am to
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why do you think it flopped the way it did?



Because no one who saw the first one would be jumping at the chance to queue up for the second.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 12:36 am to
quote:

I don't think it was widely released. Wasn't promoted much either.


Well if that's the case there you go.

I had heard of the idea of the movie but never knew it had been completed
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47709 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 2:12 am to
Me and the wife watched this about two years ago and really liked. I had no idea until tonight that Herzog directed it.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 7:46 am to
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Because no one who saw the first one would be jumping at the chance to queue up for the second.

It wasn't remotely as uncomfortable to watch as the first one.
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