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I wanted him to stay more than any other player.





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geauxaddai
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i still wish Maclin would have been left alone at LB 3 years ago


I just hope our defensive philosophy (of turning LB'er prospects to ends) doesn't do to Beckwith what it did to Maclin's career.



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...I think we will look back and conclude that the 2011 LSU squad was more talented than the 2011 Bama squad, making the NCG result even more of an abomination.
Unfortunately, we were not more talented at QB. And QB is the one position that can lose you any game if you get poor play. We got poor play from our QB. It didn't matter what the other players did, our QB could not recognize what the Alabama defense was doing.






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this one on Brockers should give ranters some perspective on why the 2011 Defense should go down as one of the best ever at LSU and why it will also be very difficult to emulate.


That explained a lot. I feel that Bennie Logan had some similar talents too that nobody on current team comes clost to.






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anthony Johnson was suppose to be that guy....if he leaves early he is retarded...same as ego...


AJ90 can be that guy but he needs to put on 20 lbs of beef. That would get him up to 315ish and allow him to dominate the front rather than hold the front.






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Brockers will be the best DT we have sent to the NFL in the past 20 years when its all said and done


IMO, that's Kyle Williams right now, but I agree that Brockers will be better.






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Great post. Tyrann always gets the pub for the 11' SEC Championship, but Brockers was a complete terror. Completely dominated that game.





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What we do for a guy like that in this secondary?


We've got three guys at CB better than Brooks. I liked Brooks; he was a very good backup; he would have started on 95 out of 100 college teams. But so would Rashard Robinson, and he's our current #3.






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Great post





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We've got three guys at CB better than Brooks. I liked Brooks; he was a very good backup; he would have started on 95 out of 100 college teams. But so would Rashard Robinson, and he's our current #3.


Terrible post.






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I think we will look back and conclude that the 2011 LSU squad was more talented than the 2011 Bama squad, making the NCG result even more of an abomination


yes, certainly as time goes on it will be shown how much better LSU was at QB, RB and OL in 2011...






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TigerFan55555
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i still wish Maclin would have been left alone at LB 3 years ago I just hope our defensive philosophy (of turning LB'er prospects to ends) doesn't do to Beckwith what it did to Maclin's career.


prob not, i just dont think beckwith has the size to play DE, nor did Maclin, Maclin was a 4 Star LB out of Tennesse and had great LB size, maybe he was too slow, not sure, and I dont put a ton into star ratings but obviously it was his natural position...I still think our Middle LB should be a bigger physical run stopper, that attacks the hole, especially with the RB's we have in the SEC. Maclin may could have filled this void this year..I understand Chavis likes the smaller "hybrid" LB's because of their speed, they are mostly FS's who have put on a few lbs, but last time I checked bama's 250LB LB's could run preatty good as well...(and yes I know its a totally different 3-4 defense)






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geauxaddai
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last time I checked bama's 250LB LB's could run preatty good as well


In a 3-4 defense there are 4 backers as opposed to 3. So they have less room to cover compared to the 4-3 where our Mike needs to have good sideline to sideline burst.



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Dick Macho
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In a 3-4 defense there are 4 backers as opposed to 3. So they have less room to cover compared to the 4-3 where our Mike needs to have good sideline to sideline burst.


This is my take on Saban's big bad 3-4 that talking heads are so enamored with...

Nicky is a bully and his 3-4 is essentially a 5-2 with a tub of lard in the middle to stop up the running game. His OLBs are the same as Chavis' DEs who might drop back to cover guys out of the backfield or just ear up zone space for the short slants, etc.

Nick basically plays a lot of bump and run with his corners while blitzing his basic three down linemen and two OLBs. The blitzes are mixed up easier since he has the four LBs to choose from kinda like when Chavis ran his 3-1 and blitzed with DBs from every possible angle.

The bullying part has to do with the large and sometimes over sized CBs. Saban loves CBs who can play bump and get their opponent receiver late getting into his route so that the QB loses faith in his receivers and starts hearing footsteps from the blitzers. As long as the CB can screw up the route's timing and keep the QB worrying about when his receivers will be breaking free into their routes then that QB will never find any kind of rhythm. At the same time, the CB doesn't have to cover nearly as long or as well as they would playing a little off of the receiver.

The beautiful part about this is that since he is playing with a pretty tight and oversized seven man front, the defense has an advantage against the run built in already.

This scheme has obviously worked very well for the gumps. The only way that any opponent can have a good day against this defense is to force Nick to get away from his bullying mentality. This is usually done with the passing game. It usually takes either a couple of strong receivers to handle the bullying from the CBs or the offense has to spread them out and force them to take out the oversized LBs and put in nickel and dime backs.

Honestly, I think that the only team that has been able to play toe to toe with this defense has been LSU. That is why we hear about "big boy" Football and what not.

This year, however, we have a passing game but do we have two receivers who can handle the bumping CBs? Also, Landry and Odell have been doing certain things that LSU receivers have never done such as those deep back shoulder catches down the sidelines instead of running under the ball in stride. The biggest reason for this year's success is that Mett trusts them to come down with the ball. We have seen how good he looks when things work out. Even forced throws were looking geniousish. Unfortunately, when Landry and Odell do not play at that level the interception probability rises very sharply.

To recap, LSU will have to get Bama out of their oversized 3-4 and make them respect the passing game. Then the rushing attack will work just fine. In fact, with the way that this team is built on the OL and the FB and RB spots, the LSU offense could very well hang just as many points on them as A+M did but again, it will most likely hinge on Odell and Jarvis getting into their routes on time and cleanly.

Also, lets hope that Cam is on his X's and O's because Nicky has become pretty darned good at not only stopping the run but taking away certain things in the passing game at the same time. Cam will have to call the right plays all night long to score more than 40 on these boys.






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I think people under valued his importance to the team because of the recruitment of freak Johnson. We were already looking shead ai little bit. I think most thought he was a good player but what was to come was supposed to be unworldly. I mean the guys name is freak.





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