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Blitzing = winning
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:24 am
In football, at least college and pro you have to pressure the QB in order to win games. You know how Saban consistantly wins with his defense? He unleashes the hell hounds on 3rd and long. What's the worst thing that can happen? They burn you with a screen pass and get 15? So what, they'll get 15 anyway if your DBs aren't covering and the DL can't get pressure. The Saints won a SB with a mediocre defense because they blitzed on just about every play.
You make up for defensive weakness by blitzing/pressuring the QB. LSU refuses to do this right now. Which is perplexing because we have speed on D besides #31. Bama and Auburn pressured & blitzed the crap out of Wallace and it affected him.
I think we put too much stock in how GOOD of a D Coordinator we have right now.....man
You make up for defensive weakness by blitzing/pressuring the QB. LSU refuses to do this right now. Which is perplexing because we have speed on D besides #31. Bama and Auburn pressured & blitzed the crap out of Wallace and it affected him.
I think we put too much stock in how GOOD of a D Coordinator we have right now.....man
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:26 am to Jeffreylebowski
If we blitzed last game I see us holding OM to 17
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:30 am to Jeffreylebowski
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Blitzing = winning
Les/Chavis are gun shy after what happened against Bama last year.
Never mind the fact that it was playing a prevent when Bama only needed a FG to tie that allowed Bama to be in a position to beat the blitz in the first place.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:32 am to Jeffreylebowski
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I think we put too much stock in how GOOD of a D Coordinator we have right now.....man
i concur....his scheme has proven to be mediocre when there is a talent gap....not to mention the middle of the field always looks wide open...
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:36 am to BabySam
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I think we put too much stock in how GOOD of a D Coordinator we have right now.....man
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i concur....his scheme has proven to be mediocre when there is a talent gap....not to mention the middle of the field always looks wide open..."
I had 3 different Tenn fans text me and say basically the same thing/combo of 3rd and Chavis or Curse of Chavis; they were sick of it
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I think we put too much stock in how GOOD of a D Coordinator we have right now.....man
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i concur....his scheme has proven to be mediocre when there is a talent gap....not to mention the middle of the field always looks wide open..."
I had 3 different Tenn fans text me and say basically the same thing/combo of 3rd and Chavis or Curse of Chavis; they were sick of it
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:38 am to Jeffreylebowski
Chavis runs cover 2, Tampa 2. It's 2 deep safeties for those who those who don't know. His zone defense is a easy defense to learn one would think. It relys on zone coverage with people playing their assignment, and getting pressure with rushing 4. He ocassionally blitzes a corner or safety. Sometimes will run blitze a linebacker. I don't know why the Defensive secondary is always lost on zone assigment. Coaching or stupid players, don't know. We can't tackle that well either. Also problem is zone defense gets you picked apart on the short passes with spread teams. This modern style of football (spread offense)kills a zone defense. Spread the DBS out run off tackle with the read option or throw the short passes. The cover 2 is so you don't get beat deep. We blitzed once with a corner and he missed locking up the QB on third down. Got a completed pass after rolled the pocket. Was down on the 15 i think about to score.
Pretty bad. Football is evolving with more and more spread offenses. It puts the offense in space against the D. Our D is not that bad, just average actually compared to most college football teams, but from our D in the past we are horrible. We gave up 26 to Miss State, but scored 59. Gave up 27 to ole miss but offense had a off first half which lost the game. Florida's offense is horrible ranked 105 in nation. Most of these spread teams are hanging 40-70 points a game right now. When we played a few years back, they scored 27, but we got the turnovers. Also it really sux now Im working in Tuscaloosa for 2 weeks where already been hackled 3 times about LSU losing plus A&M losing. Bama has already packed their bags for the SEC championship game, while LSU can play second fiddle for another season.
Pretty bad. Football is evolving with more and more spread offenses. It puts the offense in space against the D. Our D is not that bad, just average actually compared to most college football teams, but from our D in the past we are horrible. We gave up 26 to Miss State, but scored 59. Gave up 27 to ole miss but offense had a off first half which lost the game. Florida's offense is horrible ranked 105 in nation. Most of these spread teams are hanging 40-70 points a game right now. When we played a few years back, they scored 27, but we got the turnovers. Also it really sux now Im working in Tuscaloosa for 2 weeks where already been hackled 3 times about LSU losing plus A&M losing. Bama has already packed their bags for the SEC championship game, while LSU can play second fiddle for another season.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:44 am to JTTiger
Exactly, it leaves the 10-15 yards between the line of scrimmage and where the safeties can get back to vulnerable. Safeties in cover 2 always start back peddling at the snap, usually on hashes, corners get the flats agling sidelines. These spread teams kill the big open bubble areas 10-15 yards long and wide in the middle of the field. If your LBs can't get it done it's a slow 75-80 yard drive death. Only thing to do is say the hell with it and run and pass blitz if your front 4 aren't getting push and LBs can't cover their assignment.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:52 am to Jeffreylebowski
A good qb can burn the hell out of you on a blitz but when they had 1 wr double covered & another in triple coverage where were our other eligible players. It was a bad game miles got out schemed I have moved on its fur man week!
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:56 am to Jeffreylebowski
Everytime we had them in 3rd down i would tell my buddy that we were gonna give it up. I don't remeber seeing any blitzes last night. I mean damn on the final drive u have a chance to make tgem go 3 and out. Instead of bringing the house you sit back and basically play prevent.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:59 am to TigerDat
How many times did they send TM7 off the edge in 2010/2011? Find a player to fit that mold and go!
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:02 am to Jeffreylebowski
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What's the worst thing that can happen?
Their receiver could beat our guy man-to-man on a go route and score a touchdown.
I'm not saying they necessarily would, I haven't look at the speed numbers. But you can't just blitz all the time. That's like saying "Hey, just run around the pile!"
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:15 am to JTTiger
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Chavis runs cover 2, Tampa 2. It's 2 deep safeties for those who those who don't know.
he runs cover 2, but not Tampa 2.
he generally brings pressure on passing downs out of the Mustang (3-2-6) package. earlier this yr, he hadn't done that so much because it didn't seem like he had determined how his 6 DBs would look in that alignment. last wk against UF it seemed like he was back to more mustang and the alignment was Mills bumping inside and Micah at the the other inside spot, with the freshmen CBs and starting safeties.
for whatever reason, didn't see that so much against Ole Miss (though I missed the 1st half, so maybe we were running mustang and getting burned).
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:19 am to ATLTiger
it was mostly the same as the 2nd half. barrow and welter covering WR's for days, mayne!
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:27 am to SpidermanTUba
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But you can't just blitz all the time. That's like saying "Hey, just run around the pile!"
Saban always says down and distance dictates what the defense can do to stop the offense.
With 3rd. and long, Saban brings the heat and plays tight man to man; reason being the QB doesn't have enough time to throw long.
Saban can keep coming with the blitz because it never comes from the same location, and he usually doubles the opponents best WR.
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