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re: Skip Bayless "If you switched Manziel with Mariota...A&M would have 3 losses"
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:58 pm to Tiger1242
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:58 pm to Tiger1242
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Where in my post did I say Manziel is a better pro prospect?
You didn't but you said Duck fans are biased idiots. I got the same response about Dion Jordan being Mingo's equivalent. We are only biased because Mariota is on our team in your mind. However, we watch Mariota and Manziel. A lot of SEC fans look at stat sheets and base their conclusions on a developed assumption that Oregon qbs are system qbs.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 1:53 pm
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Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:22 pm to craigbiggio
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lol
It's true, and actually I should have said "without the wild improvisational runs *AND* heaving up jump-balls."
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:31 pm to BellottiBold
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But keep in mind our program heavily recruited both of these kids, and as such I've taken a serious interest in Manziel over the years.
You had Jerrard Randall in the same class and he (at the time) was the better prospect.
Manziel is definitely one of the better playmakers we've seen in college football. I think Mariota is the better all around QB, and runs the system he's in much better though. JM is more of freelance type of player.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:49 pm to BellottiBold
BellottiBold you are an idiot!
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:54 pm to bisonduck
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When Mariota gets drafted ahead of Manziel, this bookmarked post will be fun.
So when cheating chip has the 1st or 2nd pick he will pick mariota. That is what you really wanted to say.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You had Jerrard Randall in the same class and he (at the time) was the better prospect.
I don't think the staff at Oregon had Randall ahead of Mariota towards the end of his recruitment.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:55 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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So when cheating chip has the 1st or 2nd pick he will pick mariota. That is what you really wanted to say.
Chip won't have the first or second pick.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:58 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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BellottiBold you are an idiot!
ok!
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:58 pm to bisonduck
Then he gets drafted after manziel.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 2:00 pm to Born to be a Tiger
...just like Mingo would get drafted in front of Jordan.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 2:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You had Jerrard Randall in the same class and he (at the time) was the better prospect.
I take issue with the idea that Randall was the better prospect (than either Manziel or Mariota) but with that said I don't really see what that has to do with anything.
And this talk of the "system" Mariota operates is absurd. If you go back and watch his play since he became Oregon's starter, you'll see plenty of NFL throws, and throws to receivers who are sandwiched by DBs. The guy is a great quarterback, period.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 2:02 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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So when cheating chip has the 1st or 2nd pick he will pick mariota. That is what you really wanted to say.
I can only conclude from stuff like this that you're paying absolutely no attention to what draftniks are saying about Mariota. When he does come out, Chip will be far from the only coach interested.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 3:35 pm to bisonduck
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I don't think the staff at Oregon had Randall ahead of Mariota towards the end of his recruitment.
It was my understanding they did. Things just took a much different turn.
Mariota is as good as any QB playing right now. He could play for anyone and be highly effective.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 3:44 pm to HoLeInOnEr05
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The difference, Mariota has only played a full game, once this season. But yea, Manziel is vastly superior
I think Mariota only played like 2 or 3 fourth quarters all last season and didn't play like 2 or 3 2nd halfs. Dude could have easily beat Manziel's numbers.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 3:50 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I think Mariota only played like 2 or 3 fourth quarters all last season and didn't play like 2 or 3 2nd halfs. Dude could have easily beat Manziel's numbers.
Mariota wasnt as good as Manziel last year..
JFF was a much better runner...thrower..
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 3:52 pm to Datbayoubengal
Just going to throw this out there.....
Haven't we seen that when Oregon plays elite schools that their great QB's come down to earth? I'm not saying he's not a good QB, but he's playing in the PAC12. It is what it is.
Haven't we seen that when Oregon plays elite schools that their great QB's come down to earth? I'm not saying he's not a good QB, but he's playing in the PAC12. It is what it is.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 3:58 pm to GreenTrout
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but he's playing in the PAC12. It is what it is.
Best or 2nd best conference this year.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 4:32 pm to Rittdog
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I think Mariota only played like 2 or 3 fourth quarters all last season and didn't play like 2 or 3 2nd halfs. Dude could have easily beat Manziel's numbers. Mariota wasnt as good as Manziel last year..
Numbers wise NO, Because of what he just said.
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JFF was a much better runner...thrower..
JFF was a magician on the field last year. But Right Now The Ducks would DESTROY A & M.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 4:51 pm to dukke v
I don't know what kind of prospect Manziel is - wouldn't surprise me if he isn't a big time prospect because that's based on pinpoint accuracy, which I don't watch close enough to judge - but he's the best college QB I've seen in a long time, perhaps ever.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It was my understanding they did.
My understanding is that we really cooled on him. He was having trouble qualifying academically and he got in trouble during his senior season. Helfrich has detailed his recruitment of Mariota and he blew up his senior year.
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