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re: Melo might test free agency next summer

Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by nosaj
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:37 pm to
His biggest issue is that he doesn't give two shits on defense. Which is sad considering his considerable size. All he wants to do is score. I never liked the guy personally either.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:56 pm to
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Remember 6-7 years ago when people said this about Dirk.

Except Dirk was a great player then, and it was stupid when people said that. Melo is not as good a player as Dirk was. It's almost like their situations are different because they're different types of players. One is a efficient high volume scorer, and the other is a chucker.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:21 pm to
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I hear this a lot and tend to disagree. Isolation players can win and have often. What Melo needs is a cast around him that opens the floor. A couple of shooters that can spread and a Post that can step out and draw his defender or stay inside effectively. Currently I just don't see the cast there. JR Smith takes too many contested shots with his man right on him. When he takes these isolation jumpers or drives iso he is essentially taking shots away from Melo; a player who does these things more effectively. Chandler is extremely limited offensively allowing his man to loosen up on him at time to help on Melo Absolutely hate the MWP addition. When he was on the lakers it would kill me to see some of the stuff he would throw up with Kobe on the floor. Absolutely inexcusable shots for a player of his caliber
typical melo fanboy passing the buck to his supporting cast. His team in Denver was built perfectly for him. 7 guys who played D, rebounded, and did the dirty work so melo could just score. Then he complains there's no one to help him score. Get iverson? Bitch about someone else scoring.

You talk about adding this, adding that. If you want a stud defender in the paint who can also score, he'd be a better player than melo. And there just aren't that many gifted 7 footers on this planet who can play D and O at a high level. Not to mention, melo is a ball stopper. He completely dominates the ball and other great players have no interest in playing with him. Well, other than JR smith....

Carmelo is a flawed player. Building your team around a flawed player in a salary cap league is a losing proposition. He wants max money, and everyone else to do the dirty work. There's a reason he's been outta the first rd only twice in his career. He thinks playoff basketball is about scoring. It's all about defense. I highly doubt he ever gets a ring.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64091 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:56 am to
Well said.

I've stated multiple times on here that he will not win a title unless he is and older role player on a stacked team.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:07 am to
If his wife is still trying to do TV? If so then NY and LA are the only options. That was one of the driving forces behind his move in the first place.
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1595 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:11 am to
Harden, Melo & Dwight - BIG 3
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:22 am to
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Harden, Melo & Dwight - BIG 3
fricking gross. No thank you.
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1595 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:53 am to
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fricking gross
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:06 am to
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As long as it's not the Lakers


I was never a Melo guy and teaming him up with Kobe would make me want to shoot myself as a Laker fan.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:26 pm to
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typical melo fanboy


No. Im a diehard spurs fan

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His team in Denver was built perfectly for him. 7 guys who played D, rebounded, and did the dirty work so melo could just score.


I agree that the Nuggets best year was 2008-09 when they reached the WCF. That team was built for him and they went deep.
Losing to the Lakers of that day is not much of a failure IMO. Lets not forget who the coach was either, not hating on Karl to hard, but he has never got the job done either

The depth chart if I'm remembering/referencing correctly was

Billups
JR Smith
Melo
Martin
Nene
with Kleiza,, Anthony Carter D. Jones and Birdman coming off the bench

Jones Billups and Smith were lights out from 3 that year they spaced the floor for Melo.

Melo hasn't had a cast that complimentary since then.

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You talk about adding this, adding that.

yeah the NBA is about building around a superstar(s)

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If you want a stud defender in the paint who can also score, he'd be a better player than melo. And there just aren't that many gifted 7 footers on this planet who can play D and O at a high level.


How many Big men in the game can do that? you are describing a near, if not, HOFer. Of course I'm taking Tim Duncan, KG over Melo in their prime. Who do you want Chris Bosh? Dwight Howard? Gasol?

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Not to mention, melo is a ball stopper.

Jordan/Kobe = 11 rings. It has been done

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Carmelo is a flawed player. Building your team around a flawed player in a salary cap league is a losing proposition.


What is your definition of flawed player? Dwayne needed shaq to get it done. Kobe needed O'neal/Gasol. Jordan had great teams. hell pierce got shite for the same stuff Melo does and add KG + Ray and he is beloved

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here's a reason he's been outta the first rd only twice in his career.


Partly his fault, but the culture of basketball in the Denver organization is obviously not conducive to deep playoff runs

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He thinks playoff basketball is about scoring. It's all about defense. I highly doubt he ever gets a ring.


He might not get one. I just think he is capable



Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46178 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:32 pm to
Melo and Lebron in Lakers unis will be awesome the next couple of years...




just kidding
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:41 pm to
Kobe would want to strangle him
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