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What's the smallest income you can live on right now?

Posted on 10/8/13 at 8:03 am
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 8:03 am
I recently interviewed with a small startup and was asked this question.

They can barely afford to pay me a quarter of what I make now, but its a chance for me to get off of the road (I travel 48 wks/yr) and it's a really cool concept that has potential.

How would you react to that question?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 8:12 am to
I think you need to analyze this as if you are an outside consultant and see if the company has actual promise and not just a "cool" concept.

There is something that can be said for less travel, but is it worth that much less in pay? If you do take the new job would you have any ownership in the start-up? How is the start-up currently financed?

Posted by lilsnappa
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 8:43 am to
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I think you need to analyze this as if you are an outside consultant


ISWYDT.. Me being an analyst for a consulting firm and all.

I more than likely will not pursue it as I won't have any ownership and am probably not what they are looking for right now, but the question made me think.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 9:54 am to
Create a budget.

Line out everything you spent money on the last few months and see where you can make cuts.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:15 am to
quote:

What's the smallest income you can live on right now?


For how long? That would be a factor in thinking about that question.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:26 am to
I could probably take a substantial pay cut if a new job opportunity came up that offered me employee status. that's one thing I didn't consider when I was planning to move. I saw a bunch of jobs at $15-$20k less than what I make, but it would even out by actually having healthcare and the like.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:01 am to
Since my house and cars are paid for I could live on $20,000 for a year. After that it would depend on inflation.
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1793 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Since my house and cars are paid for I could live on $20,000 for a year.


This is kind of where I was going with this thread. It was more of an intellectual exercise rather than an inquiry for advice.
I know I could live comfortably and support my soon to be wife on alot less than I make now, but the question in the interview made me reassess my financial situation somewhat.

If that high risk "dream job" type opportunity came along, how would you answer that question?

Everyone's situation is different and it depends on where you are in your career/life.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:26 pm to
Right now I'm not making enough

That($145,000) in net worth is really killing me.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:40 pm to
I know them feels.

It seems like I'll be "rich" in short order once I get out from under the unsecured debt and pretty much all of my paycheck goes towards building equity in some form.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32370 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:41 pm to
Without taking out any loans, probably 60k or so. My wife and I are both in graduate school, paying out of pocket; it would be pretty hard to live on much less than that.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19665 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 4:13 pm to
$20K is probably about the absolute lowest I could go.... I would never accept that job but I think I could spread "the essentials" (rent, car, gas, food, etc) to $20k.


Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1793 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

probably 60k or so


Thats actually the number I gave when asked the question. I'm attempting to cash flow my fiance' in Med school right now. At my current income its possible, at $60k our lifestyle wouldn't change but her(our) loan burden would increase.

Golfer, whats your "get out of debt" plan for that $145k? I'll taking on about six figures in student loans when the fiance' (wife by then) finishes skrool, and her residency income is going 100% toward it till its gone...
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Thats actually the number I gave when asked the question. I'm attempting to cash flow my fiance' in Med school right now. At my current income its possible, at $60k our lifestyle wouldn't change but her(our) loan burden would increase.

Golfer, whats your "get out of debt" plan for that $145k? I'll taking on about six figures in student loans when the fiance' (wife by then) finishes skrool, and her residency income is going 100% toward it till its gone...


As someone with massive six figure debt with a decently sized income, my plan is to IBR it out to forgiveness and pay the tax. It looks like I could make more money saving the difference (and investing) and paying the tax than trying to pay it down, which would be almost impossible to do in that time frame as it is.

Oh, and my answer would have been $20,000, since that is what you live off of while in school.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15042 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 5:09 pm to
I was going to say $1,600 a month, for me alone. Then I realized that every day I see dudes on the street who I'm pretty sure have an annual income of $0.00, and they somehow manage to be alive. So I guess that's my answer.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4283 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

but its a chance for me to get off of the road (I travel 48 wks/yr)


Ha, I am looking for jobs to get on the road more

As to original question, I think it would require more analysis, I never looked at things like that
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Golfer, whats your "get out of debt" plan for that $145k? I'll taking on about six figures in student loans when the fiance' (wife by then) finishes skrool, and her residency income is going 100% toward it till its gone...


Same here. Live off my income solely for 3 more years and 100% of her take home goes to our debt reduction. All goes as planned, we will only have mortgage debt in 4 years.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

As someone with massive six figure debt with a decently sized income, my plan is to IBR it out to forgiveness and pay the tax. It looks like I could make more money saving the difference (and investing) and paying the tax than trying to pay it down, which would be almost impossible to do in that time frame as it is.


Can you expand on this? So even if our take home is north of $100k, IBR is still viable?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 5:50 pm to
IBR is based off of 15% of discretionary.

So I somehow doubt it.

Unless your interest rates are crazy.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 6:23 pm to
Yea. My back of the envelope math says that does nothing for us.
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