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Why do jam bands have the most dedicated fan bases?

Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:51 am
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:51 am
It is no secret that The Grateful Dead had/has the strongest following by any touring musical act. Phish's fans are right behind them. Even the lower tier jam bands like Disco Biscuits, Widespread Panic, etc... have hordes of people following them around the country.

What causes this? One of the bigger differences between jam bands and a normal band (in a live setting) is that jam bands utilize a unique setlist every show, while "normal" bands stick with the same setlist throughout an entire tour. This explains why someone would see a jam band multiple times on a single tour, but there has to be more to the puzzle.

Why do jam bands have the best fans?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:54 am to
drugs and
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jam bands utilize a unique setlist every show, while "normal" bands stick with the same setlist throughout an entire tour. This explains why someone would see a jam band multiple times on a single tour, but there has to be more to the puzzle.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:55 am to
And Jam Bands actually jam out for long periods of time. I have been to GD and Panic shows in the past where they played for 4+ hours. You will never see that with a mainstream act.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:58 am to
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drugs


The Phellowship and Wharf Rats prove this theory wrong.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:01 am to
I think you pretty much summed it up in the op. No matter how many times you see them, you get excited to see them again because you know you are in for something different every time.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:02 am to
Because it is an identifier. You are signing up to belong to a tribe. And it's fun to be part of your own secret world, whatever that is.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:03 am to
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Because it is an identifier. You are signing up to belong to a tribe. And it's fun to be part of your own secret world, whatever that is.


Me thinks a wook stole your girlfriend.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:06 am to
i predict 337 says drake
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:10 am to
No. It was the same appeal to punk bands or the rave culture. It's the scene. I don't think that's a bad thing at all. But jam bands foster a sense of belonging in the fan base. If anything, that's a positive thing.

but I can see why you're so defensive about not being special. No one likes their clique to be analyzed.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

jam bands utilize a unique setlist every show, while "normal" bands stick with the same setlist throughout an entire tour
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:15 am to
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It was the same appeal to punk bands or the rave culture
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:15 am to
Dedicated in the sense that they are willing to watch the same bands for x nights in a row... I'll give you that..

Not in any other sense... they definitely don't purchase every LP, 12", 7", etc..

Most people are content with a ~1:30 long set of a band and then we'll catch them the next time around...

I have no desire to dance at a show, memorize a setlist, trade live shows are memorize and archive live shows... give me a quick blast of visceral rock n roll and I'm good till next time!

Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:16 am to
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I have no desire to dance at a show


What.The.frick.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:19 am to
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Why do jam bands have the best fans?

Laziest =/= best

These people don't have jobs.

And yes, contrary to what you might say, a whole shite load of them like drugs.

I love me a good JB show as much as anyone, but when the show's over, it's time to get back to reality.

Reality for those you like to claim are the "best fans" is getting fricked up and attending a Phish show.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:21 am to
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Not in any other sense... they definitely don't purchase every LP, 12", 7", etc..


Barely anyone buys music anymore, regardless of genre.

Also, the sheer amount of band-related merchandise (both official and unofficial, with the popularity of the latter a telling sign) is off the charts in the jam band world. The Steal Your Face logo and to a lesser extent the Phish logo are recognized worldwide.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:26 am to
Hey Heady was that you I saw passed out on the front door of Theo's on Mag Saturday & Sunday morning? Fit your description.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:32 am to
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Why do jam bands have the best fans?

they don't. Just b/c people choose to drop out and follow a band show to show and it becomes a lifestyle doesnt' make them the best. That's the worst kind of fan.

This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 10:33 am
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:33 am to


Nah mon, I was in Baton Rouge that night.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:37 am to
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they don't. Just b/c people choose to drop out and follow a band show to show and it becomes a lifestyle doesnt' make them the best. That's the worst kind of fan.







Way to generalize and stereotype, bro. That's like saying every LSU fan wears cargo shorts and is from Livingston Parish.

95% of the people I know that go to jam band shows hold down jobs and are "normal." The amount of actual "wooks" at shows these days is very low. Talking about Phish shows here.
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