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Tankerman Career Questions

Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:28 am
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:28 am
I have a few questions regarding a career as a tankerman...or anything similar you might suggest.

Ik these oil and gas related threads pop up quite often and I try and gather as much from each one as I can.

I just graduated in business, but have taken an interest that i've never had before into O & G. I've seen SGS/PSC has a tankerman academy for 4 months that costs 12k, and would basically put you in a job upon completion.

Anyone work as a tankerman? know anyone? Enjoy it? What's the avg pay? Schedule?

Also, what kind of advancement ops come from a job like this?

TIA for any info
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1484 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:33 am to
I worked for SGS, but not as a tankerman. However I worked with tankermen all the time, so here goes -

This is not a typical job for college grads. It really has no upward career mobility. You basically monitor the loading and discharge of barges, operating the pump engine, compartment valving and for toxic cargos, the air return lines. A cargo transfer operations typically takes from six to twenty hours per barge and you may be responsible for multiple barges transferring at the same time.

You are also responsible for safety and environmental monitoring. Which means carrying big fire extinguishers to the barge dock.

The hours are tough as this work goes on 24-7. So you can forget about weekends, holidays, anniversaries, etc. You are also exposed to the weather as you may not leave the uncovered barge deck during cargo transfer operations.

If you travel with a tow, you will be living on the boat for weeks at a time and tow crews are not the most convivial company around.

If you want to get into oil and gas with a college degree, keep applying for office jobs in the sector, look at becoming a landman (handling royalties) or if you're hooked on working on the River, get a job as a petroleum inspector. SGS also hires inspectors and has offices everywhere. But whatever you do, don't pay $12k for any school. The big towing companies will train you OTJ and you can later study the USCG materials to take the test.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89462 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:49 am to
quote:

But whatever you do, don't pay $12k for any school. The big towing companies will train you OTJ and you can later study the USCG materials to take the test.


Ridiculously good advice.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:54 am to
Thanks

Very insightful. So I guess my next question is :
What basic ceritifications, courses, endorsements whatever should I try and pursue to strengthen myself as a candidate in the O & G industry? Are there cheap classes that make a world of difference in how my resume looks?

I have applied for many entry level jobs offshore,onshore,office. Not much luck. FWIW I am willing to go offshore for the experience in order to move up.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50336 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:58 am to
quote:

FWIW I am willing to go offshore for the experience in order to move up.


no one wants to hire college grads to work offshore, they know you will want to move up quickly.

I'd look at some really basic sales positions.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:03 am to
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Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:05 am to
Depends if you want to work for a towing company or as a shore tankerman. With the towing companies, you are going to work either 28/14, 20/10, or 20/20. Pay scale for these will have you starting out very low as a deckhand. You will work your way up to a tankerman trainee and then to tankerman. From there, you will have the potential to move into the wheelhouse. That is when you start making the big bucks.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:05 am to
quote:

no one wants to hire college grads to work offshore, they know you will want to move up quickly.


I can def see that perspective. I'm not trying to feel entitled to anything. I'd like to move up quickly, yes, but relative to what I'm doing. I don't expect it to happen overnight.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:10 am to
quote:

no one wants to hire college grads to work offshore, they know you will want to move up quickly.


Take it from a towing company's perspective. They don't want to hire career deckhands/tankermen. The point is to groom employees towards making it into the wheelhouse. Someone with a college degree, that can't find work in this economy, might be a great candidate for upward mobility.

We recently hired a Tulane Grad that couldn't find work. Granted, he had some bullshite environmental science degree. Theoretically, he could be making well into six figures in 5-6 years. Not bad for someone under 30.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:14 am to
What company do you work for Whiz, if you don't mind me asking. And does it currently have similar opportunities to what's been talked about in here?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:22 am to
Yes. We are always hiring. Deckhand turnover is pretty standard in the industry. Seriously consider the fact that you will be away from home for about 240 days out of the year. Tankerman make around $245/day and wheelmen make around $475/day. Those are rough starting pay estimates. Deckhands don't make much; which should be incentive to bust arse and move on up. If you really feel like this is something you want to pursue, then go to www.blessey.com and fill out an online application. Great company, still private, excellent equipment, and wonderful employees.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:29 am to
What are the deckhand responsibilities/ starting pay?
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

XII. Entergy Expenditure:


BTW, not sure how much it matters, but I found this typo in the description of Deckhand on Blessey's site
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10396 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

The point is to groom employees towards making it into the wheelhouse.


My BIL works for an outfit out of Vicksburg. He's one of the liberal types that got his undergrad/Masters in dumb shite. Could not find work so he started as a deckhand. Been working for maybe 10 years and although I don't know all the lingo, I think he is a pilot now or whatever the name is for the guy that drives that fricker.
Posted by cmoxon
North of B.R., way south of Heaven
Member since Jan 2007
373 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:24 pm to
Although I dont work as a tankerman,I work at a Dock facility in B.R. It seems like a tough business (Elements,Hours,Hazards of the job,etc). Not something I would recommend as it seems like it has a significant turnover and I think the pay is marginal at best.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:45 pm to
I appreciate all the input from everyone.

Keep it coming it coming if you've got anything. Like I asked earlier though, can anyone give me some advice or point me in the direction of a certain program, training, or route I should take to get started in O&G in general, not just the tankerman position.
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 2:18 pm to
For anyone else that was keeping tabs or interested in this "Marine Services" field...

I found this list someone had put together of companies in the area. Pretty informative
LINK
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8140 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 9:02 am to
Go to the Workboat show this week and take a walk around.

It might open your eyes to more cerebral opportunities in the field - not that there is anything wrong with tanking
Posted by jp90
Member since Oct 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 9:06 am to
Besides being a mate or captain type position, what other advancement opportunities come from being a deckhand on something such as an offshore crew boat or supply vessel? Do people quickly move out of a deckhand position?

Also, will companies hire a deckhand without USCG credentials? and how does one obtain them once working if so?
This post was edited on 10/9/13 at 9:08 am
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8140 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:33 pm to
The industry as a whole offers high paying jobs. Deckhand experience and a college degree could get you into the office (HR, HES, Purchasing, Logistics).

Most people don't quickly move from deckhand, but most people have average or lower intelligence.

Some companies don't hire mariners without certain credentials, but many will hire a green OS that shows promise or is recommended.

Check the USCG NMC for how long it takes to earn various credentials.
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