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Paul: Why must the people suffer when Democrats don’t want Obamacare, themselves



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What should infuriate you the most is the fact that the same elected officials who implemented this mandate have recently declared themselves exempt from it. That is to say, these officials are forcing you to partake in something that they themselves are refusing. If Obamacare is so great, why then are federal employees and elected officials getting special treatment and opting out?


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The American people do not approve of the Obamacare mandate and flocked to town halls across the country to let their representatives know it. In fact, only 12 percent of Americans think Obamacare will have a positive impact on their lives, according to a recent NBC-Wall Street Journal poll.
Headlines across the nation shows the harm Obamacare is imposing on Americans: “Georgia Healthcare Company Cuts 101 Employees due to Obamacare,” “Michigan School District Cuts Hours for Employees Because of Obamacare,” “Cleveland Clinic Announces Job Cuts to Prepare for Obamacare” and “Small Businesses Consider Dropping Healthcare Plans Under Obamacare,” just to name a few.


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Based on separate analyses from Congressional Budget Office and Deloitte, between 20 million and 65 million Americans could lose their employer-sponsored health insurance policies, and according to the CBO, the health care reform law will destroy 800,000 jobs.


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I find it absolutely despicable that Mr. Obama, his administration and the elected officials who shoved this mandate down the throat of Americans are now giving themselves waivers. The president is also giving his friends waivers. Mr. Obama’s behavior mirrors that of a captain jumping overboard, abandoning his own sinking ship.

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I have a proposal. I have offered an amendment that would outlaw any special exemptions for government employees. This amendment requires all federal workers to purchase health insurance from the new Obamacare exchanges, instead of receiving taxpayer-funded subsidies.

I am also introducing a more broad constitutional amendment, which states that Congress shall make no law that treats citizens differently from the elites in the federal government.


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Political leaders such as Mr. Obama and Mrs. Pelosi need to realize that they are not above the American people, and they are not above our laws, period. If Chief Justice Roberts thinks it is OK for the federal government to tax individuals if they don’t buy expensive private health insurance plans, he should be forced into Obamacare’s government-centered health care system. Members of Congress should also be forced to suffer under the same flawed health care system that Washington wants to use as a social experiment on the American people.








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KeyserSoze999
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but they're special





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I have a proposal. I have offered an amendment that would outlaw any special exemptions for government employees. This amendment requires all federal workers to purchase health insurance from the new Obamacare exchanges, instead of receiving taxpayer-funded subsidies.
Support.
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I am also introducing a more broad constitutional amendment, which states that Congress shall make no law that treats citizens differently from the elites in the federal government.
Support x INFINITY






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I find it absolutely despicable that Mr. Obama, his administration and the elected officials who shoved this mandate down the throat of Americans are now giving themselves waivers. The president is also giving his friends waivers. Mr. Obama’s behavior mirrors that of a captain jumping overboard, abandoning his own sinking ship.


Absolutely disgusting (and I'm not the biggest ACA hater on here, either).

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Political leaders such as Mr. Obama and Mrs. Pelosi need to realize that they are not above the American people, and they are not above our laws, period. If Chief Justice Roberts thinks it is OK for the federal government to tax individuals if they don’t buy expensive private health insurance plans, he should be forced into Obamacare’s government-centered health care system. Members of Congress should also be forced to suffer under the same flawed health care system that Washington wants to use as a social experiment on the American people.


Good luck with that, although that applies to all politicians in DC (not just BO and NP).



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Agree with everything Paul said. The front page of a local newspaper her in Georgia: hospital cites that 300 employees have been laid off in direct response to provisions in the ACA.





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I am also introducing a more broad constitutional amendment, which states that Congress shall make no law that treats citizens differently from the elites in the federal government.


This should have been in the original draft of the Constitution. There is absolutely no reason not to support this amendment.






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I have a proposal. I have offered an amendment that would outlaw any special exemptions for government employees. This amendment requires all federal workers to purchase health insurance from the new Obamacare exchanges, instead of receiving taxpayer-funded subsidies.

I am also introducing a more broad constitutional amendment, which states that Congress shall make no law that treats citizens differently from the elites in the federal government.

I don't see how anyone could fight against either of these rules and not piss off every memeber of their voting district.






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I have an idea. let's all have the same coverage as Congress. God , bad or indifferent





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"I have a proposal. I have offered an amendment that would outlaw any special exemptions for government employees. This amendment requires all federal workers to purchase health insurance from the new Obamacare exchanges, instead of receiving taxpayer-funded subsidies."

This is how you do it!






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I have an idea. let's all have the same coverage as Congress. God , bad or indifferent


THat was Obama's original plan. The COngress didn't want it.






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Ive called, written and emailed my Congressmen. Mary Landriue will not answer me, but she sends me emails ablout flood insurance. Everyone ,and i mean everyone who is is sick of this, needs to Write,email and call. This is bull shite. If its good enough for us, then its gonna be good enough for them!


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I have an idea. let's all have the same coverage as Congress. God , bad or indifferent


I have a better idea! Why doesn't everyone determine their own method of healthcare and get the gov't and insurance out of it?






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No let the government take over the Insurance fraud we have now and provide All Americans with coverage and not just those phonies in DC.





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I find it absolutely despicable that Mr. Obama, his administration and the elected officials who shoved this mandate down the throat of Americans are now giving themselves waivers. The president is also giving his friends waivers. Mr. Obama’s behavior mirrors that of a captain jumping overboard, abandoning his own sinking ship.

I'm pretty sure congress had a role in this.

I definitley like the idea eliminating the seperate plan for congress,gov. workers, etc. though. That's just ridiculous.






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THat was Obama's original plan. The COngress didn't want it.
Those damn Democrats and the majorities they had in the House and Senate.






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Those damn Democrats and the majorities they had in the House and Senate.

It's wacky, for sure.

But you have to remember: the whole reason for using this model is b/c it was a republican supported plan (the Heritage Foundation came up with the model - Mitt implemented it). With all the doom and gloom we're seeing, you'd think Lucifer himself came up with the plan. "Unconstitutional" was never mentioned when the Heritage Foundation was working on it.






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Obamacare is all on the liberals.

Don't try to pass that shite on.

Own it






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Scruffy
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But you have to remember: the whole reason for using this model is b/c it was a republican supported plan (the Heritage Foundation came up with the model - Mitt implemented it). With all the doom and gloom we're seeing, you'd think Lucifer himself came up with the plan. "Unconstitutional" was never mentioned when the Heritage Foundation was working on it.
True, but largely irrelevant. The Republicans came up with the blueprint for this crappy bill, but they had zero to do with its implementation here.

I guess you could fault them for the idea, but they didn't have anything to do with this current bill. This bill falls squarely on the shoulders of a Democrat controlled Congress.






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But you have to remember: the whole reason for using this model is b/c it was a republican supported plan (the Heritage Foundation came up with the model - Mitt implemented it). With all the doom and gloom we're seeing, you'd think Lucifer himself came up with the plan. "Unconstitutional" was never mentioned when the Heritage Foundation was working on it.


Why does that even matter? It was wrong then, and its wrong now. Not everyone here lives their lives by what their preferred party does.






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With all the doom and gloom we're seeing, you'd think Lucifer himself came up with the plan. "Unconstitutional" was never mentioned when the Heritage Foundation was working on it.


Any implementation of a version of Romneycare should have been on a state to state basis. The feet of state politicians are more easily held to the fire when they don't legislate the wishes of their constituents. It's not so easy to avoid public opinion when you reside and legislate in the same state as your constituents.

Instead, the ACA got rammed through on the whole damned nation when 70+% of the public was firmly against it. It's a rare politician in Washington who listens to constituents and stands up for their views. They're so distanced from us that we might as well be on Mars.






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