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Jeremy Hill Is A Beast. Does His Past Matter? 125 FBS Teams, Ranked.

Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:12 pm
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3. LSU (4–0). Herculean tailback Jeremy Hill is going to be a star, meaning everyone who is now obligated to write or talk about him is also obligated to decide how much they care that Hill has pleaded guilty to two violent crimes in the past three years. I bring it up selfishly, because I am one of those people, and after watching him eviscerate Auburn for 183 yards and three touchdowns on Saturday night, I'd like to be able to talk about him as the centerpiece of a championship-caliber offense without having to attach a permanent disclaimer acknowledging the moral purgatory that one enters when heaping praise on a violent offender for being good at football. We're not talking about weed or some arbitrary NCAA controversy here: I can't recall another player on the college level with Hill's profile who has played with anything as serious as a sexual battery rap in his background, much less an additional battery charge after arriving on campus.

That's not an argument that he shouldn't be playing—quite the opposite. My policy on that kind of moralizing is that if the legal system, the university, and the coaches are okay with letting a borderline kid continue to play, that's their call. (In this case, the decision was also up to Hill's teammates, who voted to allow him back this summer.) If not, also their call. They have assumed a role in his development as a citizen and a human. I'm interested in the kid as a player. And Hill is a hell of a player. Like most people, the best I can do at reconciling these competing impulses is to nod in the general direction of Cecil Collins, another talented, troubled LSU running back who shone so brightly in such a brief window of time—he saw the field in a grand total of four games in 1997—that his ongoing legal odyssey still makes local headlines more than 15 years later. How good could "The Diesel" have been, if he'd remained healthy and out of handcuffs? Jeremy Hill is in the process of showing us. Whether or not he deserves the opportunity, I'd still prefer we never wind up asking the same question about him.






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Posted by weinrib
Toronto
Member since Sep 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:17 pm to
Hill is a great talent. Just not a fan.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:23 pm to
Hernandez was a great tight end..
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:24 pm to
People need to stop looking to football players as moral role models. Jeremy Hill is a great role model if you want to be a great RB. I don't give two shits about our players past because its really not pertinent to football.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:25 pm to
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Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:25 pm to
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People need to stop looking to football players as moral role models. Jeremy Hill is a great role model if you want to be a great RB. I don't give two shits about our players past because its really not pertinent to football.



I mean, the author pretty much says that in his article. . .
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:28 pm to
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Hernandez was a great tight end..




Here we go, let's get this thread kicked off right with some comparisons to a murderer
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20354 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:30 pm to
And Ray Lewis was all-pro countless times and is not an nfl commentator.

What ya got now?
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:30 pm to
I've said it before and i'll say it again

When I was in high school, there were several seniors that dated freshmen. Senior guys with freshmen girls and vice versa

Was Hill an idiot for not realizing that what he did was illegal? Absolutely, but people who act like he brutally raped some child either dont avail themselves of the facts of the matter or they're idiots.

Now the punch to the back of the head?

that was chicken shite

even if the guy called him the "n word," (as i've heard from a few people) if you have beef with someone, hit them in the face when they can see it coming


Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3992 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:31 pm to
do you people even listen to the explanation of the sexual battery case? at all? or are you so high on your fricking horses that you can't see it? do you not want to think that there are some little whores that go down on the jocks EVERY DAY? reality check. there was a long line of jocks sucked before she got to hill, and she thought she could make some hay, or try to repair her shitty rep. he paid for it. it's over with. he's not a rapist. there's a reason you can't see anything about the case anymore.

as for the fight. JFF's hardly gets mentioned so stfu
Posted by Captain Ron
Location: Ted's
Member since Dec 2012
4340 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:32 pm to
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Here we go, let's get this thread kicked off right with some comparisons to a murderer


A murderer that Meyer enabled by letting him get away with everything he did at UF with nary a suspension.

Hill didn't play football for a year. People forget that he sat out what would have been his freshman year, and assume he went straight from getting his dick sucked by a freshman in HS on one day to our starting RB the next.

..and throwing a punch in college? Puh-lease. Most of us would all be violent criminals if we were all held to that standard.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:32 pm to
turn up the heat
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:34 pm to
his high school thing was simply just high school. that goes on a ton.

the punching incident was stupid, but it's behind him now. time to move forward.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:40 pm to
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two violent crimes


punching a drunk guy who called him the "N" word and what?

beating the shite out of auburn?
Posted by MusicMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
1362 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:41 pm to
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they care that Hill has pleaded guilty to two violent crimes


TWO violent crimes? sad.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:42 pm to
the facts aren't important to the media

hill is a monster who rapes children and murders innocent little boys
Posted by MusicMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
1362 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:47 pm to
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the facts aren't important to the media


I agree here.



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hill is a monster who rapes children and murders innocent little boys



Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:48 pm to
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the facts aren't important to the media


Yeah, facts have never followed the media's narrative concerning this story. That's why we've rarely seen any.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5929 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:48 pm to
This sh!t is so aggravating.
If the author of this article hasn't ever lied to or cheated on his wife, if he's never smoked weed, or broken the speed limit, or driven home after having a couple beers, then fine. let him "throw stones".
but a misdemeanor is a misdemeanor. You only want to bring it up because he's "famous".
I'd be willing to bet that people who are actually involved in your life like your PCP, or Dentist, or Postman have a misdemeanor and you couldn't give a FLUCK.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:49 pm to
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Yeah, facts have never followed the media's narrative concerning this story. That's why we've rarely seen any.



thats what i find so interesting about this writer's perspective in the story

he's basically saying, "i understand the violent history of jeremy hill, but i'd like to move past that and not mention it in the future"

if he really wanted to move past it, he'd actually look into the charges
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