My conclusions after hours of Online AR research

Would love one of those but it will be a ways down the line. Ammo is not cheap and neither is the gun. But they sure do look fun as shite.

Yeah, I have gone from wanting a reasonably priced gun, to thinking I know I want to buy the gun plus suppressor plus $400 of NFA taxes plus $300 to $600 gun trust thru a lawyer.

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I'll forward you the contact info of the the guy I used.

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Would appreciate it. I'm in New Orleans.

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Stingray, I don't own an AR15, but I've killed deer w/ a Thompson Center Contender using a 12" long 300/221 barrel; the 300/221 (actually developed by JD Jones as the "300 Whisper") was the precursor to the 300 BLK. For what you want to do, I think the 300 BLK is a reasonable choice. I'd encourage you to fully understand what you'll have from a ballistic standpoint. Many folks nowdays (don't put me in that category) think the 30-30 Winchester is useless as a big game hunting round. Factory 30-30 Win muzzle velocities w/ a 150 gr bullet run from 2200-2400 fps. Depending on barrel length, the supersonic 300 BLK velocities will run 200-400 fps less than the 30-30. My personal experience w/ the 300/221 on small whitetail deer at up to 200 yards has been favorable (my handloads get 2250 fps w/ the 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet). W/ a 16" barrel, you'll have a decent hunting gun for inside 200 yards; w/ shorter barrels, you'll lose velocity AND hunting range. I've not hunted deer w/ 300/221 subsonic loads but I've read of a handgun hunter who has. IIRC, he was not as impressed w/ the subsonic load for deer hunting. This was from a man who kills >50 deer/year so I trust his experience greatly.

Even the supersonic loads have VERY mild recoil and are much more quiet than most hunting loads.

What about getting a 16" threaded barrel, shoot the gun as is and see how you like it? If you're not happy, you can always add the suppressor and/or go to a shorter barrel.

300 BLK Barrel, inches Bullet Wt., gr Velocity, fps
16 125 2215
12.5 125 2150
9 125 2030

is a shorter barrel with a suppressor that together measures 16 inches equal to a 16 inch barrel without a suppressor in terms of ballistics?

Before getting though the first paragraph I thought "this guy needs a blackout". Glad to see you are on the right track.

There are two guys that I know of in NOLA/Metry to shoot you straight re: trusts. Email me at xenon 4 lsu gmail for contact info if you want

If you start shooting 300blk, I would strongly suggest you get into reloading. They have tutorials online to convert 556/223 brass into 300blk brass so cases will be plentiful. There are also a wide variety of aftermarket bullets in 30 caliber. You would save a lot of money and could load the round to your exact needs. I think it would work well for you.

And there are plenty guys here who have slain pigs with 300blk so I think they'll agree that you're making a good decision.

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If you start shooting 300blk, I would strongly suggest you get into reloading

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This is my goal as well. My next AR build will be a 16" 300blk so that my son can shoot deer with it. I like the AR platform for a youth gun since the recoil is next to nothing and the collapsible stock is great for kids. I would think with 220gr subsonics and a can that thing would be bad arse on pigs.

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with the NFA rule change bullshite going on right now, you want to submit your paperwork yesterday.

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This is true. The Zero is working overtime to change the rules regarding trusts. You'll be subject to all the rules that individuals have to go through regarding Title II firearms.

LC