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Scoring issue on yahoo with the Cincy DEF/ST
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:41 am
Anyone else have the Cincinnati Bengals DEF/ST in yahoo? For some reason, yahoo took away the 6 points for the defensive touchdown on the fumble recovery. There is no explanation of where the points went or why they are taken away.
I'm also in an NFL.com league and they give credit for the TD still, FWIW.
I'm so confused!
Anyone have any idea why this happened???
I'm also in an NFL.com league and they give credit for the TD still, FWIW.
I'm so confused!
Anyone have any idea why this happened???
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:30 am to gjackx
This has to have affected someone else. Even espn.com gives credit for the TD.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:31 am to gjackx
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I'm so confused!
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:36 am to Fearthehat0307
Thanks Fear, but even Gene can't help me here. 
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:37 am to gjackx
Technically it wasn't a fumble recovered from the other team...the fumble return that scored was initiated by a Bengal player.
I still think it should count, but I can see why they ruled it that way.
I still think it should count, but I can see why they ruled it that way.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:40 am to DallasTiger45
But why do all of the other sites count it? The TD has to be credited SOMEWHERE. It was still scored by the DEFENSE. In your breakdown they lose credit for the fumble, not the actual TD.
Sorry, no need for me to yell here.
Sorry, no need for me to yell here.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:41 am to gjackx
it'll be fixed
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:48 am to OneMoreTime
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it'll be fixed
That's the issue, they took it off after it spent the entire afternoon/evening being on there. I hope you're right though.
But, I'll still lose regardless
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:02 am to gjackx
What exactly happened on the play?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:17 am to gjackx
yea this is stupid
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:19 am to Drew Orleans
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:21 am to gjackx
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But, I'll still lose regardless
WTF? Then why do you care?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:22 am to DallasTiger45
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Technically it wasn't a fumble recovered from the other team
What? Yes it was...
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:22 am to boom roasted
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WTF? Then why do you care?
Because it hasn't happened yet. The guy I'm against still has players tonight.
And total points matter $-wise in this league. So, it could matter later down the road as well.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:27 am to gjackx
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Because it hasn't happened yet. The guy I'm against still has players tonight.
And total points matter $-wise in this league. So, it could matter later down the road as well.
10-4.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:01 pm to boom roasted
I know ths may sound stupid and believe me it does, but my only reasoning would be after the ball was recovered by the defense the first time the Bengals are technicaly the offensive team now.
Defensive rules state that a ball must be scored by a defensive player and since it was fumbled again and recovered by Newman that would make Newman an offensive player which in turn would only credit Newman for the touchdown not the defense as a whole. Also, Newmans recovery shouldnt count as a recovery since the "offensive" player had the ball on the same team. Kinda like when an offensive lineman picks one up and scores.
Stat corrections come out Wednesday so I'd wait till then. But I think it should be a TD and 1 fumble recovery by Cincinnati Defense.
Defensive rules state that a ball must be scored by a defensive player and since it was fumbled again and recovered by Newman that would make Newman an offensive player which in turn would only credit Newman for the touchdown not the defense as a whole. Also, Newmans recovery shouldnt count as a recovery since the "offensive" player had the ball on the same team. Kinda like when an offensive lineman picks one up and scores.
Stat corrections come out Wednesday so I'd wait till then. But I think it should be a TD and 1 fumble recovery by Cincinnati Defense.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:18 pm to tzimme4
There was never a stoppage of play though. The defense was still on the field and the defensive player scored the touchdown. You can't magically become an offensive player in the middle of a defensive play without said play ending on a whistle.
Every other site seems to give the Cincy DEF credit for this score fantasy-wise too.
And this was a correction, they originally scored it to the Cincy DEF/ST...which is even more of an insult.
Every other site seems to give the Cincy DEF credit for this score fantasy-wise too.
And this was a correction, they originally scored it to the Cincy DEF/ST...which is even more of an insult.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:39 pm to tzimme4
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I know ths may sound stupid and believe me it does, but my only reasoning would be after the ball was recovered by the defense the first time the Bengals are technicaly the offensive team now.
this make's no sense.. If this was true, no defense could ever score, because once they gain possesion they "become the offense"..Uh...NO.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:40 pm to gjackx
Like I said once the defense recovers the ball the first time they become the offensive team while technically the defensive players are on the field. But since the ball was fumbled again neither team had possession and then Newman recovers. Making him an offensive player recover an offensive fumble. It sounds stupid but that's how they scored it.
Fumbling the ball the 2nd time and recovering during the play discounted the defensive TD. Recovering your own fumble made Yahoo score them as an offensive TD.
Fumbling the ball the 2nd time and recovering during the play discounted the defensive TD. Recovering your own fumble made Yahoo score them as an offensive TD.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 12:45 pm to tzimme4
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Like I said once the defense recovers the ball the first time they become the offensive team while technically the defensive players are on the field. But since the ball was fumbled again neither team had possession and then Newman recovers. Making him an offensive player recover an offensive fumble. It sounds stupid but that's how they scored it.
Like I said.... NO. The defense scored, they should get credit. They do not "become the offense" once they gain possession.
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