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yeah a tornado is a weather event, the other two have to do with music and entertainment.


'Twista" isnt even a word recognized in the English dictionary. Why should a school teach it to children?






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Vermilion Parish






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Napoleon
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Really think that's appropriate for a young kid?


The kids came back with a whole bunch of books the other day. One was on the Donner Party and even had the question "If you were starving would you eat a dead body". Another was on weird jobs and had a guy who took skulls and applied faces to them for forensics. These were checked out at a Archdiocese school library by a five year old.

So yeah, I think she could handle learning a "Pimp is a criminal who is bad to women" and a "Mobsta is a criminal who thinks he is cool"

I was most upset by the six year old bringing in a kids version of Moby Dick and it didn't start with "Call Me Ishmael"






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yeah a tornado is a weather event, the other two have to do with music and entertainment.


'Twista" isnt even a word recognized in the English dictionary. Why should a school teach it to children?



It's a "proper noun" look at this from your link.

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feliciana
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.


I mean Feliciana is not in the dictionary you linked, should we not teach the 64 parishes?

It isn't like its a Spelling word.

Think of the stuff we read in fourth grade. It wasn't all dictionary words.

"Twista" is a person, is Elvis in the dictionary? The Beatles? I learned of both in school and both had drug issues, and could be seen by previous generations as bad for kids.

Times change.




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Vermilion Parish

Eaton Park represent






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Our native American English is nothing more than the language of words we actually use in common parlance.

Like it or not, these words have just as much right to be in our curriculum as outdated words rooted in old-English tradition.






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FelicianaTigerfan
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The pimps and mobstaz is secondary to the use of "twista". I dont see the point of including it since its not an actual word. Keep slang out of English class and you wont have to talk about an artist that sings about pimps and mobstaz





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You Wright about that.





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Vermilion Parish
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Napoleon
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The pimps and mobstaz is secondary to the use of "twista". I dont see the point of including it since its not an actual word. Keep slang out of English class and you wont have to talk about an artist that sings about pimps and mobstaz



IT'S A PROPER NOUN. It's the name of an "artist". I use air quotes, but he does have talent.

You act like every word taught in school has to be an "actual word"

Remember the three R's? Reading, 'righting, 'rithmetic. C'mon.
How about SQ3R?

Hell SQ3R should be reinforced to this day (Scan, Question, Read, Recite, Review all material)








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FelicianaTigerfan
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I mean Feliciana is not in the dictionary you linked, should we not teach the 64 parishes?
Louisiana History, not English

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It isn't like its a Spelling word.
But imo it teaches kids that slang spelling is acceptable

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"Twista" is a person, is Elvis in the dictionary? The Beatles? I learned of both in school and both had drug issues, and could be seen by previous generations as bad for kids.
Willing to bet you were never given a worksheet with their names and a list of drugs they used, especially 4th grade

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Times change.

Not always for the better


ETA: I see your points but why is this necessary? Just seems that they are dumbing down kids so others that maybe write like they talk wont be left behind. I have a 4th grader that is being taught common core so I kinda feel I have a dog in this fight.



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Y u b h@tn on dem kds homie shzzle





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OldSouth
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Myths and "Facts" FWIW
Did you really just link corestandards.org to refute something about common core?






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Napoleon
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Willing to bet you were never given a worksheet with their names and a list of drugs they used, especially 4th grade



Of course never their names, but we learned of Elvis and Beatles in school, but that was in GT.
I agree that slang spelling is not acceptable. Even though I went to Public school there is no way in hell that my step kids or kids will. Just won't happen.

An yes the changes made are for the worse. I was looking at lesson plans just now and the stuff people had to know in fourth grade in the 50's were things you didn't learn until seventh or eighth grade.
I think schools are so focused now on standardized testing that they are forgoing teaching kids the things they really need to know.

If a teacher wants to include a popular artist on a lesson plan, go ahead. Personally I would have done the movie "Twister" rather than the rapper Twista.

But I don't think it deserves the outcry.








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FelicianaTigerfan
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But I don't think it deserves the outcry.
To me personally its just another straw in the stack. My kids go to one of the better rated public schools in the state but truthfully its far from that. They are taught to past the standardized test instead of actually being taught to excel.






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"It was filled with Ebonics."








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My son is in 7th grade at a school not teaching CC (yet), but he declared that James Tiberius Kirk (as portrayed in STID) was a "player" because he was sleeping with two girls when he woke up one morning and proceeded to make moves on other girls at Starfleet and at a bar later that same day.


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“It was really inappropriate for my child,” Badeaux said. “He doesn’t’ know what a pimp or mobster is.”

She also took issue with the school sending home a worksheet that intentionally misspelled words.

“I try to teach him morals and respect and to speak correctly,” she said. “It’s hard for a fourth grader to understand Ebonics when you’re trying to teach him how to spell and write correctly.”









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D011ahbi11
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Common Core education standards.


I'm not 100% sure what this is, but I'm seeing some angry parents on FB. They're trying to get Louisiana to drop it and apparently parents in other states have already done so successfully.

Is this worth the fuss, what do you guys know about this?






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Epic Cajun
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Over 50 percent of the kids in that classroom probably already know who Twista is. I'm sure it wasn't the first time many of them heard the word "pimp" either.





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