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re: Trent Richardson traded to Indianapolis....

Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Wasn't Ingram in the league a year before T Rich
Yeah. They've basically had identical numbers though.

I just brought it up because of the Bama connection and the fact that one guy gets talked about like a clear bust and the other like he's a future all pro
Posted by LSU Shreddin
Denver
Member since Feb 2009
1426 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:15 pm to
So what you are saying is, our first round RB took two seasons to eclipse the 1,000 mark.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Yeah. They've basically had identical numbers though.

I just brought it up because of the Bama connection and the fact that one guy gets talked about like a clear bust and the other like he's a future all pro

Imagine.

And he was traded for a first round pick.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:18 pm to
I just signed Willis McGhaee >:)
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Just because, career numbers:

Richardson - 298 carries for 1055 yds. 3.5 ypc 11 tds

Ingram - 295 carries for 1107 yds. 3.8 ypc 10 tds




Let's throw in receiving numbers also though.

RIchardson 58 receptions 418 yds

Ingram 17 receptions 75 yards


Ingram has also been on a better team. Richardson will likely look better in Indy.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Ingram has also been on a better team.
Only because he makes us better.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:28 pm to
I'm not a big Ingram supporter, but I think eyeran's point is the YPC.


Ingram doesn't call plays. Who knows? Maybe if he had the number of carries Richardson had in his first season, he would have gone over 1000.

Obviously there's a lot of variables, but it is interesting that the one with the higher YPC is the one who is commonly portrayed as the worst RB in the NFL by this board.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:34 pm to
suck4clowney2014
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:35 pm to
Ingram's been incredibly shitty. Richardson's arguably been worse.(2 runs over 20 yards in his career)

Point that out and people act like you're arguing to put Ingram in the HOF.

I expected that though. He's public enemy #1 right now.
Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
1197 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:35 pm to
Maybe I'll finally get some fantasy points from Richardson now.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10227 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:38 pm to
At least Richardson can break tackles and get into the endzone.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Yeah. They've basically had identical numbers though.

I just brought it up because of the Bama connection and the fact that one guy gets talked about like a clear bust and the other like he's a future all pro

I'm pretty sure that if they traded situations, their numbers wouldn't be so similar.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:11 pm to
And they gave up a #1 for him

Ingram has to have value now with this
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 7:12 pm
Posted by MISSIPSAINT
Magee
Member since Feb 2013
438 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:19 pm to
Ingram for a 3rd pick would be sweet, but take a look at what the Browns are doing. Looking to get a Bridgwater or Manziel. Also can get a WR in the first round. Good move IMO.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11841 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:21 pm to
To me, Richardson is not worth a 1st. He and Ingram were a function of the Alabama offense and huge OLine. Is there another stupid team willing to give up a #3 for Ingram?
Posted by MISSIPSAINT
Magee
Member since Feb 2013
438 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:26 pm to
Agree these guys passed up on RG3, now they realize a RB is not a way to build a franchise. Michael Lombardi is looking for a franchise QB. Lets be truthfull this is a tank job.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:36 pm to
Plus they went from Weeden to Brian Hoyer when Jason Campbell was their backup. They don't want to win. Campbell is a mediocre QB but better than both Weeden and Hoyer


A first rounder for a guy that probably only adds a win or two to their total, at best, is pretty good imo.

Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:48 pm to
I think Cleveland made a really smart decision. Richardson has not looked like a franchise-carrying running back. He's not in the same mold as an Adrian Peterson, who is literally the only franchise-carrying running back in the league. You just don't need to use a 1st rounder on a RB anymore.

Another argument you could make is one about Alabama running backs. They carry the ball so much and so hard in college that by the time they get to the league, they're on the downside of their careers physically. Ingram had a knee issue and toe troubles coming in. Richardson had knee/leg problems coming in. Eddie Lacy had questions about his toe being fused together.

The Browns arguably got much more than Richardson was really worth.
Posted by swlaLSUfan
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:59 pm to
Maybe a chance to unite two Bama boys in Indy!

Loomis work a deal.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30060 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 8:38 pm to
They gave up a 4th, 5th, and 7th for him (traded 1st with 'sota). They could have drafted so many other players. Never trade up for a RB
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