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Sean Payton and the fine line between Confidence and Arrogance.

Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:47 am
Posted by Snakebucket
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:47 am
forget last year, and the question of how culpable SP is for the lost season, but his seeming inability to admit failure in the Mark Ingram experiment, which could easily have cost us yesterday's game, borders on pathological.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:48 am to
So, fire Payton?
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:53 am to
quote:

forget last year, and the question of how culpable SP is for the lost season, but his seeming inability to admit failure in the Mark Ingram experiment, which could easily have cost us yesterday's game, borders on pathological.


admitted that he caused us to be in the hole with his play calling. key word admitted
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:54 am to
go on...
Posted by Snakebucket
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:55 am to
Of course not, but the outrage toward Ingram seems largely misplaced. When will Payton see the Unfortunately Crimson Elephant in the room.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:56 am to
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the Unfortunately Crimson Elephant in the room.


ok thats funny
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:57 am to
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but the outrage toward Ingram seems largely misplaced.

I'm having trouble agreeing with you out of principle.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:58 am to
Payton is not blind or dumb. He can read stats. He knows Ingram isn't producing.

There are reasons we don't know about.
Posted by Snakebucket
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:58 am to
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ok thats funny


Blind squirrel, meet acorn
Posted by MoreOrLes
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:58 am to
Ingram is to Payton

What Jordan Jefferson was to Les Miles



Seriously

I wonder how much, if any, the connection between the Saints and Bama led to drafting Ingram in the first.

Seems like yesterday Saban was telling all the teams in the NFL how Marks knee was just fine. Seems like yesterday the Saints DC was helping bama with pointers.

Seems like just yesterday we bought the proverbial "Bill of Goods"
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 10:01 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:00 am to
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Ingram is to Payton

What Jordan Jefferson was to Les Miles


STAHP
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:01 am to
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Payton is not blind or dumb. He can read stats. He knows Ingram isn't producing.

There are reasons we don't know about.

My hypothesis, he's keeping PT and Sproles healthy by limiting their snaps.

He's using Ingram because Robinson is raw and Cadet has issues and tends to fumble.
Posted by TigerRanter
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:01 am to
If Ingram can't truck a safety for 1 yard, what good is he?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:02 am to
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If Ingram can't truck a safety for 1 yard, what good is he?



Pass blocking. Something Sproles tends to fail miserably at.
Posted by DelU249
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:03 am to
louisiana football fans are sorry

SP won a SB for the sorry arse new orleans saints, he's 2-0. We won a hard fought game on the road, in the rain against what is probably going to be a top 3 defense. That is a low scoring version of the 49ers playoff loss, and yet...we won

jesus christ, go back to the rant
Posted by JasonL79
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:04 am to
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My hypothesis, he's keeping PT and Sproles healthy by limiting their snaps.


This is what I think. Just wish SP wouldn't do it on goal line offenses.
Posted by Snakebucket
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:08 am to
So that Super Bowl buys SP unlimited goodwill? Payton's decision making is not a valid topic?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:10 am to
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So that Super Bowl buys SP unlimited goodwill?


Well running the best offense in the NFL for a few years including numerous records and a SB certainly buys him some goodwill, yes. Then coming off suspension and being undefeated certainly helps.

quote:

Payton's decision making is not a valid topic?


I never said that.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 10:11 am
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:11 am to
quote:

So that Super Bowl buys SP unlimited goodwill?


you bet your arse it does

quote:

Payton's decision making is not a valid topic?


after a win, no it is not. Even so, what are you questioning? Oh, he's culpable for bounty gate...go frick yourself. I can't wait for LSU to get shite stomped by UGA this weekend so you fricking rantards can go cry elsewhere.
Posted by Snakebucket
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:14 am to
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Oh, he's culpable for bounty gate...go frick yourself. I can't wait for LSU to get shite stomped by UGA this weekend so you fricking rantards can go cry elsewhere.


That's sad bro. Here's a word for you. Compartmentalization. Look it up.

FWIW, I never brought up that University 70 miles west.
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