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Napster documentary, Downloaded, is streaming free now

Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:16 pm
I just watched this documentary about the rise and fall of napster and its effect on the music industry and the internet as a whole. Its pretty interesting if you're into that topic. Also it was written, produced, and directed by Bill S. Preston esq. himself, Alex Winter. Its streaming free on AOL now. LINK
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 12:25 am to
Very cool.

Good post.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 12:32 am to
Old Winamp.

The modem sounds at the beginning...brings back memories.
Posted by NekoosaTiger
Member since Aug 2013
446 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 6:41 am to
I watched this last spring, very good movie.
quote:

Old Winamp
Kicks the llama's arse, loved that player. Used it until I switched to vlc player.

If I remember correctly from the film one of the Napster guys, one who did something tat led to the beginning of their troubles, started spotify.
This post was edited on 9/13/13 at 6:44 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 6:45 am to
I installed my first CD burner on my 19th birthday. CD burner +Napster I thought I gad died and gone to musical wonderland heaven.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 7:11 am to
quote:

I installed my first CD burner on my 19th birthday. CD burner +Napster I thought I gad died and gone to musical wonderland heaven.


Even with the dial up modem right? I was a downloading SOB on dial up.
Posted by Hulk Hogan
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 8:19 am to
bookmarked to watch later
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 8:31 am to
5 minutes in and hooked
Now I don't download music, just stream
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 8:55 am to
it brought back a lot of memories from irc, ratio sites, and the pre-napster music-trading world

that was like junior-senior year of high school for me, and me and my little asian friend were the local trendsetters

the technology itself was just revolutionary, and it's funny that it was created via 2 untrained kids and some of their internet programmer friends. it was clear the courts and industries had no idea what hit them, and they used crony capitalism and the government to attack technology they didn't understand.

think about how awesome LEGAL music acquisition is now for users, and the LEGAL system is destroying the old school model. hell even if you watch that video, the label guy, in part 1, talks about how the labels were there to basically protect consumers by giving a perception of validation.

after watching this, i really have a much better appreciation for the technology itself. at the time i had no idea that this technology was such a "long shot" in programmer terms.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 8:59 am to
How long is this doc, start to finish? Trying to decide if I have enough time to watch it before I leave work at 11 (while getting other work-related shite done).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:03 am to
it's broken up into parts of different length. i wached like half last night. probably 1:45 or so
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:04 am to
been wanting to watch it for awhile i wrote a speech on how napster changed music this summer. Part of my speech was how its bs that i can't watch this Doc for free.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:05 am to
Most big technology advancements like that on the internet were started by drop outs. There is a book called hackers that demonstrates this completely. Hell, Bill gates is a drop out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:05 am to
i remember when offspring made the "napster" shirts and it turned into even MORE promotion for napster

i own one of them...sadly i think the armpit on one sleeve is dead
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40741 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:07 am to
Anyone remember the first MP3 you downloaded?

My first was Gary Numan - Cars
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39131 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:08 am to
I'm about the same age as these guys and just the nostalgia of seeing those fashion trends and hairstyles is enough for me to enjoy it.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:09 am to
Some musicians really embraced it and saw the potential. Many alienated their fans by showing all they cared about was profits. It was a very interesting time for the music industry and many were very scared of change.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:14 am to
I lost alot of respect for Dr. Dre and a few other rappers that I listened to alot when all of that went down. I still listen to them though! lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Hell, Bill gates is a drop out.

of harvard

pioneers of industry and technology often are not formally trained, because the training implants the current paradigm. wrapping your perception, and honing your skills within the current paradigm, does not lend itself to development of different ideas

the educational-industrial complex, which has really been exposed the past 10 years or so with exploding tuitions and student debtloads, is not really conducive to new developments. i love college, but it's become very homogenized

the thing about the internet that really changed the game was now you have millions of people writing code, communicating with each other, and developing ideas on their own that serve certain needs. these needs may start out on the individual level of the developer(s), but as we've seen with napster, they can offer things that have a much, much wider appeal. that is just amazing. even if only 1% of the ideas/tech developed have mass appeal, with all of the stuff that is being developed, you're going to have some societal game changers

i mean the technology from the time i started middle school until the end of high school made a major leap (we're talking end of cassettes and beginning of CDs into the napster time period). that was 7 years. now think about how much faster things changed from 2001-2008. it's improvement by a factor of 10+
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/13/13 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I lost alot of respect for Dr. Dre and a few other rappers that I listened to alot when all of that went down. I still listen to them though! lol

it was really funny when he would keep talking about how napster needed to "take the songs down" even when it was said over and over that there was no centralized server. metallica had a slightly better understanding of it, they were just much more douchey

the fight at that time was one of a select handful of previously-established musicians only. a large underlying battle emerged because those guys wanted to maintain their hegemony over the industry and did not want to allow access to other groups that may eventually take their market share
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