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Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism

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JAY CARNEY: As for the editorial, you know, we're not surprised by President Putin's words. But the fact is that Russia offers a stark contrast that demonstrates why America is exceptional. Unlike Russia, the United States stands up for democratic values and human rights in our own country and around the world and we believe that our global security is advanced when children cannot be gassed to death by a dictator.

It is also worth noting that Russia is isolated and alone in blaming the opposition for the chemical weapons attack on August 21st. There is no credible reporting, and we have seen no credible reporting, that the opposition has used chemical weapons in Syria. And we have been joined by now 34 countries in declaring that the Assad regime is responsible for the use of chemical weapons on that night. Even Iran, which is fighting on Assad's behalf in Syria has publicly blamed the Assad regime for the August 21st attack.

In addition to the intelligence pertaining to the regime's preparations for the attack and in our post-attack observations, it's common sense that the opposition does not have the capabilities to have carried out such a large scale coordinated rocket and artillery attack from a regime held neighborhood targeting opposition neighborhoods. And I think it's also worth pointing out that there's a great irony that in the placement of an op-ed like this, because it reflects the truly exceptional tradition in this country of freedom of expression. And that is not a tradition shared in Russia, by Russia, and it is fact freedom of expression has been on the decrease over the past dozen or so years in Russia.


It's time to call Russia out on its record on democracy, human rights and illegal occupations. I'm glad to see the White House finally punching back.


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Hasn't Obama dismissed American Exceptionalism fairly consistently? I know it was in the speech the other day, but still


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democracy
Not worth defending.
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human rights
America has such an impeccable record.
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illegal occupations


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Jay Carney needs to he slammed for his antics over the last five years. He boldly lies to America on a daily basis all in the name of the Democratic Party. Jay Carney is just as much of a piece of shite as the entire Obama cabinet.


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Hasn't Obama dismissed American Exceptionalism fairly consistently? I know it was in the speech the other day, but still


Last I heard he claims it...



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America has such an impeccable record.


Compared to Russia?

Are you retarded?


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Carney is entering a world of pain if he wants to get in the ring with Putin


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Compared to Russia?


Google search: Fallujah babies.


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Google search: Fallujah babies.


Stop embarrassing yourself


HurricaneDunc
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Does he mention Obama's speech in France where talks about American exceptionalism and speaks to the fact that all countries think they are exceptional, therefore making no country exceptional?


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Stop embarrassing yourself


Ahh, American exceptionalism includes being allowed to commit atrocities and be absolved of blame.


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Democracy
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human rights
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illegal occupations


In no way are both the USA and Russia in any acceptable position to take the high ground on these issues.


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In no way are both the USA and Russia in any acceptable position to take the high ground on these issues.


You can't be serious.

I know the libertarians are cynical about US morality but come on? You actually believe Russia is on par with America on democracy and human rights?


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Hasn't Obama dismissed American Exceptionalism fairly consistently?
"I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." -- Barack Obama


joshnorris14
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You actually believe Russia is on par with America on democracy and human rights?



Well the current American system has around 70 years of slavery in its history.

Incarceration of tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans.

The only two uses of nuclear weapons on a population.

3 major invasions in the last 40 years.

And...


Tuskegee


Trail of Tears


Should I go on?


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"I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." -- Barack Obama


Yet he acknowledges US exceptionalism,



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Hasn't Obama dismissed American Exceptionalism fairly consistently?


WSJ- Obam and Exceptionalism

I'm glad you saw it too. Obama has dissed American exceptionalism in the past and now he's channeling his inner Reagan.

This is pure comedy.

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I don't know what Putin is doing going after American exceptionalism. A lot of Americans take that shite pretty seriously. Seems pretty stupid to troll Americans when most of us are against Syrian intervention.


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Maybe. But Jay Carney is an arse clown, and the administration has done nothing to earn my respect. Vitriole.


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I don't know what Putin is doing going after American exceptionalism. A lot of Americans take that shite pretty seriously. Seems pretty stupid to troll Americans when most of us are against Syrian intervention.


I can't take anyone seriously that even compares Russia and the US on democracy and human rights. Political decent is punished even today in Russia with prison and death. You can't honestly debate this with a straight face as people like Gary Kasparov risk their lives speaking out against Putin.
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