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Was this a fair veto?!
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:34 am
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:34 am
I was giving Stevan Ridley and Jordy Nelson and getting Marshawn Lynch and Miles Austin. Trade got vetoed last night and I'm kind of pissed about it.
10-man League
His RB/WR combo would of been
Ridley, Forte, Sproles
Nelson, Amendola, Antonio Brown
Mine
Foster, Lynch, Bell
AJ, Cruz, Decker, Austin
10-man League
His RB/WR combo would of been
Ridley, Forte, Sproles
Nelson, Amendola, Antonio Brown
Mine
Foster, Lynch, Bell
AJ, Cruz, Decker, Austin
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to McCringleberryy
looks fair to me. Your league sucks. Tell them to take care of their own team and not worry about anyone else's possibly getting better because they don't have the balls to make a deal.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to McCringleberryy
Sounds like you play with pansies that used to cheat on the playground when they were younger by making up the rules as they go.
If the trade isn't collusion, there is no reason for it not to go through.
If the trade isn't collusion, there is no reason for it not to go through.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to McCringleberryy
Did it reach a vote or did the LM veto it?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:40 am to gatordmb89
It's a trade between me and the commish so he can't overule the veto... It reached the vote. It sucks because I was going to then be able to flip Lynch Decker and Austin for Martin and Welker.. I'm considering saying frick this league.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:43 am to MrPappagiorgio
They trying to hold a white man down, I told them they should of not drafted like a bunch of pre-teen girls. That's not helping my cause any.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:46 am to McCringleberryy
Damn man that sucks
Definitely looks fair to me
Definitely looks fair to me
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:50 am to McCringleberryy
That veto is collusion, the trade was not.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:51 am to McCringleberryy
Good lord what the hell is wrong with that? Your league fricking sucks.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:51 am to McCringleberryy
If you have to ask, then no it wasnt a fair veto. Once people realize that trade vetoing is stupid then I cant feel bad for them playing in a league full of idiots.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:53 am to McCringleberryy
quote:
I'm considering saying frick this league.
Ive done it before. Drop every player you can, bench the rest of your squad and tell them all to eat a dick.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:56 am to McCringleberryy
I don't understand leagues that veto just cause they don't like the deal...If it isn't blatantly obvious that one side is getting the better end...then i see no problem with them.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:56 am to St Augustine
quote:
Your league fricking sucks.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:58 am to Banana Bread
quote:
I don't understand leagues that veto just cause they don't like the deal...If it isn't blatantly obvious that one side is getting the better end...then i see no problem with them
I don't even like putting trades to a vote, which is why i don't play with people I don't know.
IMO, the commish should have veto power, and if the commish is in a trade, then put it to a vote, BUT the vote is to only see if there is some sort of cheating going on.....that's it.
If the last place teams trades away Manning in week 13, yeah, something is up.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:58 am to lsuhunt555
quote:
Dear League,
There seems to be some problems with the "power of the veto" in our league. I know some of you may have never played fantasy football before, so i have put together a little presentation on "the power of the veto".
Step one would be to look at the trade after it is accepted by each team. Is it a lop-sided trade that completely benefits one team? Are there any obvious signs of collusion? (Collusion is when a team in your league knowingly trades away more value than it receives as a way to help out another owner.) Or is an owner out of contention obviously just dumping players because they simply do not care anymore?
If you are concerned about one of these factors, a fair next step would be to request that both owners publicly defend why they proposed/accepted the trade. If both can convincingly validate their actions, then approve the trade and forget about it.
If an owner fails to convince the league of their actions, or offers some pathetic excuse, then the commissioner as well as the rest of the league needs to discuss in all fairness the next line of action until enough evidence is presented to support their case.
Notice through all of this, I have never recommended approving or vetoing a trade based solely on your opinions of whether or not it was fair. As far as I am concerned, this way too subjective to be an accurate determining factor for trade approvals. Killing a pending trade just because you may not see the value of both sides, or disagreeing with it solely on how it will effect your team, kills any chance for an owner to take risks and build a great team. It is sort of equivalent to fantasy collusion.
So, when push comes to shove, the only way to truly evaluate a pending transaction is through the test of collusion and nothing else.
It is all too easy for an owner to veto a trade anonymously on this ESPN site in fear of the transaction hurting their chance at winning in the league. Brandon and myself both offered up a chance for discussion and nothing was said. The trade fills a void on each team, and there is clearly no collusion involved with the matter. I suspect the veto came merely on the opponents we are up against this week, and in my own personal opinion makes the veto a more cowardly act than a collusion trade. I have re-submitted the trade, and would like the owners of this league to take the time to reconsider adequately and honestly their decision on this trade.
Email I sent, resubmitted the trade, if they pull that bitchassness again then I'm out.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:00 am to LSUfan4444
quote:
I don't even like putting trades to a vote, which is why i don't play with people I don't know.
IMO, the commish should have veto power, and if the commish is in a trade, then put it to a vote, BUT the vote is to only see if there is some sort of cheating going on.....that's it.
If the last place teams trades away Manning in week 13, yeah, something is up.
Good luck finding a commish that is smart enough to do what is right. Most people I have played with are in it for themselves and take money under the table for players hahaha
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:00 am to McCringleberryy
quote:
Was this a fair veto?!
F*ck no it wasn't fair. I'd seriously have a major problem with it if i were you.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:06 am to McCringleberryy
frick your league for vetoing that. They are all pussies. Show them this thread.
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