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Was this a fair veto?!

Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:34 am
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:34 am
I was giving Stevan Ridley and Jordy Nelson and getting Marshawn Lynch and Miles Austin. Trade got vetoed last night and I'm kind of pissed about it.
10-man League
His RB/WR combo would of been
Ridley, Forte, Sproles
Nelson, Amendola, Antonio Brown

Mine
Foster, Lynch, Bell
AJ, Cruz, Decker, Austin
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19341 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to
looks fair to me. Your league sucks. Tell them to take care of their own team and not worry about anyone else's possibly getting better because they don't have the balls to make a deal.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25327 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to
Sounds like you play with pansies that used to cheat on the playground when they were younger by making up the rules as they go.

If the trade isn't collusion, there is no reason for it not to go through.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:36 am to
Did it reach a vote or did the LM veto it?
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41122 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:37 am to
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:38 am to
bullshite veto
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:40 am to
It's a trade between me and the commish so he can't overule the veto... It reached the vote. It sucks because I was going to then be able to flip Lynch Decker and Austin for Martin and Welker.. I'm considering saying frick this league.
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:43 am to

They trying to hold a white man down, I told them they should of not drafted like a bunch of pre-teen girls. That's not helping my cause any.
Posted by TheBogeyMan
Member since Aug 2013
77 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:46 am to
Damn man that sucks

Definitely looks fair to me
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2028 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:50 am to
That veto is collusion, the trade was not.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64031 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:51 am to
Good lord what the hell is wrong with that? Your league fricking sucks.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38404 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:51 am to
If you have to ask, then no it wasnt a fair veto. Once people realize that trade vetoing is stupid then I cant feel bad for them playing in a league full of idiots.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38404 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:53 am to
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I'm considering saying frick this league.



Ive done it before. Drop every player you can, bench the rest of your squad and tell them all to eat a dick.
Posted by Banana Bread
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
118 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:56 am to
I don't understand leagues that veto just cause they don't like the deal...If it isn't blatantly obvious that one side is getting the better end...then i see no problem with them.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53723 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Your league fricking sucks.


Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53723 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I don't understand leagues that veto just cause they don't like the deal...If it isn't blatantly obvious that one side is getting the better end...then i see no problem with them


I don't even like putting trades to a vote, which is why i don't play with people I don't know.

IMO, the commish should have veto power, and if the commish is in a trade, then put it to a vote, BUT the vote is to only see if there is some sort of cheating going on.....that's it.

If the last place teams trades away Manning in week 13, yeah, something is up.
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Dear League,
There seems to be some problems with the "power of the veto" in our league. I know some of you may have never played fantasy football before, so i have put together a little presentation on "the power of the veto".

Step one would be to look at the trade after it is accepted by each team. Is it a lop-sided trade that completely benefits one team? Are there any obvious signs of collusion? (Collusion is when a team in your league knowingly trades away more value than it receives as a way to help out another owner.) Or is an owner out of contention obviously just dumping players because they simply do not care anymore?
If you are concerned about one of these factors, a fair next step would be to request that both owners publicly defend why they proposed/accepted the trade. If both can convincingly validate their actions, then approve the trade and forget about it.

If an owner fails to convince the league of their actions, or offers some pathetic excuse, then the commissioner as well as the rest of the league needs to discuss in all fairness the next line of action until enough evidence is presented to support their case.

Notice through all of this, I have never recommended approving or vetoing a trade based solely on your opinions of whether or not it was fair. As far as I am concerned, this way too subjective to be an accurate determining factor for trade approvals. Killing a pending trade just because you may not see the value of both sides, or disagreeing with it solely on how it will effect your team, kills any chance for an owner to take risks and build a great team. It is sort of equivalent to fantasy collusion.

So, when push comes to shove, the only way to truly evaluate a pending transaction is through the test of collusion and nothing else.

It is all too easy for an owner to veto a trade anonymously on this ESPN site in fear of the transaction hurting their chance at winning in the league. Brandon and myself both offered up a chance for discussion and nothing was said. The trade fills a void on each team, and there is clearly no collusion involved with the matter. I suspect the veto came merely on the opponents we are up against this week, and in my own personal opinion makes the veto a more cowardly act than a collusion trade. I have re-submitted the trade, and would like the owners of this league to take the time to reconsider adequately and honestly their decision on this trade.


Email I sent, resubmitted the trade, if they pull that bitchassness again then I'm out.
Posted by Banana Bread
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
118 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:00 am to
quote:

I don't even like putting trades to a vote, which is why i don't play with people I don't know.

IMO, the commish should have veto power, and if the commish is in a trade, then put it to a vote, BUT the vote is to only see if there is some sort of cheating going on.....that's it.

If the last place teams trades away Manning in week 13, yeah, something is up.


Good luck finding a commish that is smart enough to do what is right. Most people I have played with are in it for themselves and take money under the table for players hahaha
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:00 am to
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Was this a fair veto?!


F*ck no it wasn't fair. I'd seriously have a major problem with it if i were you.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13846 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:06 am to
frick your league for vetoing that. They are all pussies. Show them this thread.
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