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.410 Youth model
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:14 pm
I'm looking for a first shotgun for my daughter in .410. Any suggestions on brand or style?
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:17 pm to killinme_smalls
Any small crack barrel .410 should be fine.
I think a few brands offer them with a .22 barrel as well. That'd be the way to go IMO. If you live by an academy, that's where I'd go look first.
I think a few brands offer them with a .22 barrel as well. That'd be the way to go IMO. If you live by an academy, that's where I'd go look first.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:+1
Any small crack barrel .410 should be fine.
quote:In theory it sounds good, but gonna disagree on that one.
I think a few brands offer them with a .22 barrel as well. That'd be the way to go IMO.
I bought one from Academy for one of my boys when he was a tike. The .22 barrel was very inaccurate and frustrated the boy (and me). Better to get a .22 that is meant to be a .22.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 6:02 pm to CoastieGM
She has a .22 and I've been pleased with it. Just looking for a shotgun. Have looked at several, just curious if any OBers had any recs. Thanks guys.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 6:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Surprisingly, the crackbarel .410's weigh more than the Mossberg youth model pumps. I've been down this road and wasted time & money on single shot .410's that were still too heavy for a kid to mount properly.
Cabelas's had (presumably still sells) a Mossberg pump .410. I'm pretty sure it's called the Model 510 Mini -- it comes with synthetic stock and spacers spacers that allow you to increase the length of the stock (length-of-pull) as the kid grows.
Mossberg also makes the same gun in a 20 gauge, but depending on the size//weight of the kid, the 20 gauge pump has way more recoil than the .410 pump.
The only issue we've had is that the pump mechanism was very initially stiff. Took it apart after a few boxes of ammo failed to loosen things up. Did a little sanding and lubing at obvious friction points and it made all the difference in the world. Very smooth action -- very reliable.
Great gun for the money. Ours came with a fixed choke barrel (modified). It breaks clays like a 12 gauge when you hit 'em in the middle.
Cabelas's had (presumably still sells) a Mossberg pump .410. I'm pretty sure it's called the Model 510 Mini -- it comes with synthetic stock and spacers spacers that allow you to increase the length of the stock (length-of-pull) as the kid grows.
Mossberg also makes the same gun in a 20 gauge, but depending on the size//weight of the kid, the 20 gauge pump has way more recoil than the .410 pump.
The only issue we've had is that the pump mechanism was very initially stiff. Took it apart after a few boxes of ammo failed to loosen things up. Did a little sanding and lubing at obvious friction points and it made all the difference in the world. Very smooth action -- very reliable.
Great gun for the money. Ours came with a fixed choke barrel (modified). It breaks clays like a 12 gauge when you hit 'em in the middle.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 6:15 pm to killinme_smalls
quote:
Just looking for a shotgun.
Yeah, a cheap kid's .410 that I've been impressed with is the BrazTech that we got from Academy years ago.
VERY durable. Kids have beat the crap out of it for years.
FANTASTIC SAFETY FEATURES.
The safety is a lever-type hammer block (rather than trigger block). Can also double as a de-cocker.
Has a transfer bar between the hammer and firing pin just like a pistol. This is so handy for occasions that the kid need to de-cock the shotgun....thumb slipping off the hammer is not an issue.
CHEAP: I think we paid $100 for it.
That little shotgun has taken a boatload of jackrabbits in West Texas.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 6:17 pm to CoastieGM
Thanks for all the info guys!
Posted on 9/11/13 at 6:22 pm to killinme_smalls
I had a little Rossi synthetic stock for my daughter, but the gun was so light it kicked pretty good even with 2.5" shells. I got rid of it and ended up getting a used wooden stock youth h&r, cutting 3.5" off the stock, adding back a 1" recoil pad, and putting 3/4 lb lead in the stock. She handles it well now. I'm usually not big on crazy modifications to guns, but I have 3 little girls and I figured it would get used enough to justify chopping up a perfectly fine gun.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:03 pm to tenfoe
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but the gun was so light it kicked pretty good even with 2.5" shells
It was so many years ago that my kids were small, that I forgot that it was nearly an issue. It does indeed have some recoil, but my kids got used to it.
If your girls are light-framed AND sensitive, this could be an issue. But you know your kids better than anyone.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:04 pm to CoastieGM
The .410 crack barrel I had as a kid was pretty heavy. I think it was an H&R topper jr
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:25 pm to killinme_smalls
Had the New England .410 as a kid, killed hella rain birds with that thing. Never had problem, kicked pretty good though
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:30 pm to killinme_smalls
I'll tell you what my dad always told me:
"A .410 isn't a kid's gun. It's an expert's gun."
That said, if she's small, the recoil in a 20 ga might cause bad habits.
"A .410 isn't a kid's gun. It's an expert's gun."
That said, if she's small, the recoil in a 20 ga might cause bad habits.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:36 pm to killinme_smalls
I have the same 410 pump mossberg for my boy
The pump isn't that smooth but it's a very good size and easy to handle for an 8 year old
410 steel shot is hard as hell to find
The pump isn't that smooth but it's a very good size and easy to handle for an 8 year old
410 steel shot is hard as hell to find
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:42 pm to Teague
quote:
A .410 isn't a kid's gun. It's an expert's gun
I agree with this to a certain extent. I wouldn't put a kid out wingshooting with one, but for shooting squirrels and beer cans it's fine IMO.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 7:45 pm to CoastieGM
quote:
It does indeed have some recoil, but my kids got used to it.
The one I had as a kid never bothered me. I killed my first deer, squirrel, rabbit, dove, and a million armadillos spotlighting with it. I think the first time mine shot that little Rossi and it about bucked her off it made her a little shy of it. She's not quite six and shoots cans with a BB gun at 15 steps, so she can shoot a little. This new rig fits her like her BB gun and it's made all the difference.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 8:16 pm to Teague
quote:
"A .410 isn't a kid's gun. It's an expert's gun."
Sorta.
If an adult picks up a youth sized .410, it'll be hard to shoot well. OTOH, My 8-year old busts the he** out of clay targets with his.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 8:19 pm to tenfoe
I bought the stoeger condor .410 over and under. Good little gun but little heavier than I would like. My son is 7. I plan to let him shoot it in blind at 8 when he's a bit bigger hopefully.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 8:26 pm to killinme_smalls
Broke out the Ole Mossberg 410 for the little Dongs this evening. Still too long for my boys and I think I'd like to have the stock cut down - I can get a couple year's worth of squirrel killing and can busting between the two boys. Does that make sense and is this something a gunsmith would have to do, or can an experienced wood worker with some gun knowledge handle the job? Killed my first squirrel with this "smoke pole."
Sorry for the hijack.
Sorry for the hijack.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 9:01 pm to dawg23
I got a 410 Rossi with a 22 barrel also for my 6 yr olds starter gun. Cheap also
Posted on 9/11/13 at 9:12 pm to dawg23
quote:
If an adult picks up a youth sized .410, it'll be hard to shoot well.
Yeah, but my dad wasn't referring to youth guns, he was referring to the....... caliber.... guage?
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