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Now how is that dog gonna pull his cord?





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Those aren't even American troops wearing Ghillie Suits. That is the unmistakable forward sight of an AK-47 which is not the standard rifle for any US troops.


Oh, I know they aren't. I'm pretty sure that photo is actually from the Iranian annual military parade, they like to parade guys in ghillie suits for some reason.

But true Wookiees would never fight for them.



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think they have at times landed on carriers but have not completely been CQ'd yet.

besides that one isn't actually landing..


No. The F-35C is not carrier qual yet and has not landed on a carrier. The B model has, but only in the vertical form. That pic is photoshopped.






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From what I've read, the only operational squadron with c's is the one out of Eglin that does all the test and operations stuff. They've launched off the cats at Eglin, but no landings yet.


True. When we were stationed at Pax (rotated 15 DEC), the C model was doing cat and trap work there due to that being the NAVAIR test base (it was at Pax long before Eglin). In fact, the flop other-wise known as the F-35 couldn't do traps due to poor tail hook design. This plane is a pig and will get eaten on the battlefield.






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To the best of my knowldge we are still using the M24 SWS.



Unless you're a Marine, or a member of a specops unit. But the Army does still employ the M24.






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This plane is a pig and will get eaten on the battlefield


Why is it a pig other than not being able to land on carriers.






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Poor horiz/vert performance due to being so heavy. Small weapons load - capable of carrying, what, two AAM's? Poor combat radius - maybe half the loiter time of an A-10. Speaking of, this plane - the A version is supposed to replace both the A-10 and F-16 for the Air Force. A job which it is woefully unsuited for. It doesn't carry half the ordinance of the A-10, and maybe the F-16 for that matter - that, along with such low loiter time, makes it very unsuited to CAS.

But wait, some will claim its a stealth plane. Technically that is only partially true - from the frontal aspect, yes. But side/rear are a different story. That big honking engine in the back is highly visible in all spectrums. So, for it to be more effective, more weapons will need to be installed...well, the only place for that is under the wings, which totally defeats any "stealth" aspect...

Another thing, this plane is totally dependent on data/commmunications to survive. What happens when ours satellites are knocked out? Think about that for a min, any big foe that this plane was designed to go against will knock out satcom very early...

And, one has to ask why this plane is being pushed so hard when it is so far over budget its ridiculous and will be more expensive, in operational figures, than any other in history. Think about that one for a minute, too...



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And, one has to ask why this plane is being pushed so hard when it is so far over budget its ridiculous and will be more expensive, in operational figures, than any other in history. Think about that one for a minute, too...



I only ask because most Marines wanted it cancelled and I think the only reason the current Commandant was chosen was because he is an aviator and really wanted to push this new jet. He's the first commandant that didn't come from the infantry in the history of the Marine Corps. If it's no good for CAS then the Marine Corps has no use for it. CAS is the primary mission of Marine aviation. So your post is very disappointing to me.






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And, one has to ask why this plane is being pushed so hard when it is so far over budget its ridiculous and will be more expensive, in operational figures, than any other in history. Think about that one for a minute, too...


I've got no issue with the intentions behind what they are trying to to with the F35. Unifying aircraft between the services means common parts means cheaper maintenance. Hell, the Navy has already started doing this with the Hornet/Super Hornet.

What it seems to me is that the military wanted too much out of one aircraft. Lockheed has designed an incredibly complex machine to meet those needs. But, given the wide range of operations expected out of the f35, as the saying goes, "Jack of all trades, master of none."






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I only ask because most Marines wanted it cancelled and I think the only reason the current Commandant was chosen was because he is an aviator and really wanted to push this new jet. He's the first commandant that didn't come from the infantry in the history of the Marine Corps. If it's no good for CAS then the Marine Corps has no use for it. CAS is the primary mission of Marine aviation. So your post is very disappointing to me.


For the Marines, it is meant as a replacement for the Harrier... But, have you noticed that they brought a lot of used Harriers from GB? Gotta wonder why... Also, notice, that more F/A-18E's and F's are being purchased, which are more than capable, esp with the AESA radar system.

The only reason that makes sense is that someone's pockets are getting lined rather richly. This plane, when and if it ever becomes fully operational, is really going to dissapoint... If it has to go into CAS mode it will only be able to do so effectively if air superiority has been established AND enemy air defenses have been supressed, that way it can carry ordinance on the wings - which as we all know defeats any stealth advantage. But that still doesn't overcome poor combat radius. Will it be good at CAS? Probably, but about as good as the Harrier. It certainly can't carry a huge weapons load or stay around for long...

Why this plane is being pushed so hard is a mystery. A better replacement would be the A-10, which has no problem using unimproved airfields. But that would make almost too much sense.

In a dogfight, this plane will lose badly, especially against newer 4th and 5th gen fighters. Advances in radar tech will most likely render stealth almost useless by the 20's or early 30's, if not before.






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I've got no issue with the intentions behind what they are trying to to with the F35. Unifying aircraft between the services means common parts means cheaper maintenance. Hell, the Navy has already started doing this with the Hornet/Super Hornet.


Not necessarily. Although they may share some basic similiarities, they are almost completely different aircraft. The Air Force version is built differently than the Navy version (wing size, landing gear more sturdy for Navy, etc.) and the Marine version is unlike the others. It has a different engine and no gun. It is also heavier than the others due to the STOVL capabilities that for some reason the Marines wanted (think suped-up Harrier). The Super Hornets, for now, only belong to the Navy. The Marines use the C/D versions - and the older A if all of those airframes haven't been retired. There is some talk about the Marines getting the E/F/G models, though. But at Pax, our Marine birds were only the C/D models. The Navy does still use the C/D, too. But the Hornet/Super Hornet are different beasts that only look like siblings...
The Air Force will never go the Hornet route...



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Why this plane is being pushed so hard is a mystery. A better replacement would be the A-10, which has no problem using unimproved airfields. But that would make almost too much sense.


The Marines will never buy the A-10 because it can't operate from short deck carriers.






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God there's too many pilots on this site.





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Not sure about all the pictures, but I can definitely show you how to NOT do jumpmaster duties on the tailgate of a C-130...


Ladies and gentlemen, that's why we keep one hand over the rip chord handle of our reserve chutes






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The Marines will never buy the A-10 because it can't operate from short deck carriers.


True, but how many ops are from carriers?






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True, but how many ops are from carriers?


Most are when not considering Iraq or Afghanistan. The Marine Corps wants fixed wing support for the MEU's. Harriers and Ospreys were heavily involved in Lybia.






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Not sure about all the pictures, but I can definitely show you how to NOT do jumpmaster duties on the tailgate of a C-130...



This happened to a Jumpmaster-in-training at night while I was at Ft. Bragg, and the poor guy did not survive. He bounced against too many hard surfaces on the way out.

I wonder if the guy in the YouTube survived?






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That means this is what was called a "tank tender". They used these to carry supplies.


This might be a very rare photo, because, I don't think that there are many WW I photos of tank tenders. This is the first one I have seen.






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IIRC, there were something like only four or so Harriers and two Ospreys (used in the pilot rescue) used there, correct? Operating off of the Kearsarge, I believe.


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