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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:18 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:18 pm


Hopefully Payton is smarter with the challenges in the future. He should have had our people looking at the play during the measuring.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/8/13 at 10:24 pm
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:22 pm to
for those w/o a SR account:

Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:24 pm to
Well, the yellow line isn't official.

But that ref spotted the ball a full yard behind where the ball hit.





Just a chickenshit spot.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:25 pm to
besides this tho IMO he should not have used the timeout during the easy kick.. just take the 5 yard penalty if you want to try to draw offsides.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:26 pm to
I blame Payton and whoever he relies on up in the booth to tell him when to challenge.

That was basically a turnover.

Booth guy needs to be fired.
This post was edited on 9/8/13 at 10:27 pm
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:29 pm to
how does the rule book read on spot challenges? what "standard of evidence" is required? Is it similar to the turnover standard? Either way, I think this is one Payton will be looking at and wishing he had back.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:49 pm to
Seems to me like the lazy refs always just mark the ball about a yard short of where the player lands on the play like they're assuming they slid forward after they went down. I watch as many games as I can on Sundays and it happens in every game. They need to pay more attention spotting the ball
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:50 pm to
It was an obvious first down and I thought so at the time. I'm pretty sure you can challenge the spot,and this one was way off.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 10:52 pm to
I was screaming "why is the ref fricking drifting back" as he was walking to spot the ball.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 11:03 pm to
I think they get it right most of the time, but that was a terrible fricking spot.
Posted by BarbeTiger
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 11:10 pm to
That was a definitely a bad no challenge and an even worse spot by the refs
Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:27 am to
I recall it vividly - robbery
Posted by metryboy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:34 am to
On the national TV coverage at least (I live in Dallas now) they never showed a replay. I am not sure the booth guys had anything to look at.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:56 am to
quote:

I was screaming "why is the ref fricking drifting back" as he was walking to spot the ball.


We must have jinxed each other because I was screaming the same thing. Should have have my fingers crossed.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 7:04 am to
Yep he had it right then moved back.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 7:10 am to
I don't know if I've ever seen as much second guessing after a win.

I guess that means there's room for improvement.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4029 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 8:35 am to
He lost control of the ball and recovered it where it was finally spotted.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Well, the yellow line isn't official.

But that ref spotted the ball a full yard behind where the ball hit.





Just a chickenshit spot.
All of this. I still don't know why he didn't challenge. All's well that ends well, though.
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 8:38 am
Posted by Brees from Grayskull
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/9/13 at 8:42 am to
quote:

On the national TV coverage at least (I live in Dallas now) they never showed a replay. I am not sure the booth guys had anything to look at.


This. I was upset because they weren't showing a replay in time. The booth guys for the Saints see the same replay we see, so if the replay is non existent or late, they cannot communicate with Payton in time to throw the challenge flag.

Had Payton gotten the opportunity to challenge, the replay would've clearly shown that Pierre's knee was not down, in fact, his knee was on the Atlanta defender as he stretched for the First Down.
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