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Help with 1911 pricing
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:31 pm
I'm looking to get a 1911. My uncle is a gunsmith in Shelby, Mississippi and specializes in 1911s I believe. His website says they're 3600 dollars but I'm sure I could get a nice family discount. My question is at what price would it be idiotic to pass up a fun from him? I rather pony up 700-800 on one but if I can get a good enough deal from him I just assume do that.
Here are two he's made.
Here are two he's made.
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
are you looking for a custom les baer like pictured? 1911 is a pretty general term when asking for price
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
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700-800
Obviously you won't get a custom job for this price...
But for that price, Ruger makes one hell of a 1911. The price is the same for the full size and commander size, or marginally different.
Others near that price range are Springfield Armory, Kimber, and S&W (entry-level stuff). But those will be closer to 900 than 800 on the high end.
Do you want an American 1911 or an import? That is usually where the bar is drawn for pricing.
I personally like getting an American icon built by American workers with higher quality parts, but that's just me.
EDIT: FWIW my avi is a $1200 S&W 1911. Well, besides the 100s of dollars I've sunk into it...
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:45 pm to NYCAuburn
I know almost nothing about them right now other than what I've picked up from this board. No is doesn't need to be a custom Les Baer like those two.
The only thing I'm struggling with is the point where passing up on a nicer model is stupid. I'm assuming I could either buy a Ruger or something similar from him or try to get a good deal on a nicer model, whether it's custom or not.
Let's say I could get one of those for a grand cheaper than it would normally cost. I'm pretty sure it still wouldn't be worth it to me right now. Just wondering if there's a certain price I'd be crazy not to pull the trigger on.
The only thing I'm struggling with is the point where passing up on a nicer model is stupid. I'm assuming I could either buy a Ruger or something similar from him or try to get a good deal on a nicer model, whether it's custom or not.
Let's say I could get one of those for a grand cheaper than it would normally cost. I'm pretty sure it still wouldn't be worth it to me right now. Just wondering if there's a certain price I'd be crazy not to pull the trigger on.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:52 pm to bapple
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EDIT: FWIW my avi is a $1200 S&W 1911. Well, besides the 100s of dollars I've sunk into it...
Figured you had. That thing is so nice. I don't mind where the parts are from or where it's made. I emailed him about the prices so I should know soon what I can expect. I'm leaning towards ordering a Ruger from him. Is that the way it works? He's order it and I'd but it off him? ETA: Are the guns in the picture nice guns? I have no idea how good he is. He made twin 1911s with real ivory grips, they're so nice.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 2:52 pm to ReauxlTide222
You can get a nice Colt for around $1000. Iconic, and made in America using forged parts.
ETA: The Ruger is not that attractive a 1911, IMO. Mix of blue parts on stainless, large magazine bumper pad, and laser etched writing all over the place. I imagine also that most of the parts are cast and not forged. But it is relatively cheap, if that is the primary consideration.
ETA: The Ruger is not that attractive a 1911, IMO. Mix of blue parts on stainless, large magazine bumper pad, and laser etched writing all over the place. I imagine also that most of the parts are cast and not forged. But it is relatively cheap, if that is the primary consideration.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 3:05 pm to ReauxlTide222
You should talk with him and have him build you the best bare bones version he'd do. You want his opinion on each component...I'd just start from the ground up. He'll put one together for you and not charge a mint. You really should go to him before you come up with what you're willing to spend. If it cost you $2100 to get a heirloom quality weapon, then that's what it'll take. If it's $1600 then even better.
You may even be able to get into one cheaper with the idea of upgrading, say the complete trigger, in a couple of years. It may be more fun to actually feel the upgrades as they go instead of just lacing up the race shoes first.
You may even be able to get into one cheaper with the idea of upgrading, say the complete trigger, in a couple of years. It may be more fun to actually feel the upgrades as they go instead of just lacing up the race shoes first.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 3:07 pm to ReauxlTide222
Both of those are very nice. I don't know a lot about les bear but I do know they are very nice 1911s if he really is a close family member you won't want to screw him and he won't want to acre you. Figure out what he's got in it and let him make a little money.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 3:28 pm to weagle99
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The Ruger is not that attractive a 1911, IMO. Mix of blue parts on stainless,
My S&W has parkerized hardware and it is stainless. I think the contrast looks fantastic.
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and laser etched writing all over the place.
I'm not crazy about that either, but at least the slide is minimal. The only real writing is under the dust cover and says "read manual" or "can fire with magazine removed." My S&W has the latter "warning." Thanks 21st century.
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I imagine also that most of the parts are cast
I know it has a cast frame and maybe some of the other parts are cast.
But if anyone is gonna do a casting for me, it would be Ruger. They make some pretty durable stuff.
For the OP, it really comes down to this - I see a custom 1911 as a family heirloom. As someone said earlier, if he can make it under $2k and you can pass it to a son or grandson down the road, I think it would be worth it.
If you don't have the money to pay for all the extra work, factory 1911s in the brands I mention up there^ are pretty good. I think the lower model Springfields also have cast frames (not positive though). Besides that, the others (S&W, Kimber) are forged.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 3:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
Just get a nice off the rack 1911 & have your uncle massage & hot rod it for you
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:34 pm to Gaston
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If it cost you $2100 to get a heirloom quality weapon
This wasn't the original plan but yeah it seems like a really good idea. I'll talk to him and get on the same page. Plus Christmas and my birthday are coming up
Idk if anybody would be interested but I can link his website if y'all would like. Not sure where y'all buy guns from.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
Someone say 1911?
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
Link it up please!
Always willing to look at nice 1911s
Always willing to look at nice 1911s
Posted on 8/26/13 at 7:57 pm to greasemonkey
shite I'm still on my phone. He only has 2 or 3 but he's got some custom rifles and stuff too. I'll link it when I'm at my computer.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 8:45 pm to ReauxlTide222
All that engraving certainly isn't my thing...
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:54 pm to weagle99
I agree. I would look into a Colt Custom Carry Government (01991CCG). Only so many of these were originally made for Talo to distribute, but they are now in Colt's 2013 catalog as a regular item. They can be found new for around $900. It has everything one would want on a 1911 and nothing that is unnecessary for great performance. Colt's are also forged and made in the U.S. I also prefer the original internal extractor and not an external extractor like on Smith and Wessons. The main reason being is if you ever have to replace it. Any series 80 internal extractor can be fit to a 1911 made for internal extractors. External extractors do not have a standard and vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, so good luck in 20 years trying to find the right one for replacement.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:05 pm to ReauxlTide222
If you're going to spend the $800-900 to get a quality one, spend the extra $400 to get one of the best, if not the best, production 1911 you can get. Springfield Armory TRP or the upper end Smith's. You may regret not getting the nicer one a few months down the road.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:14 pm to dnm3305
Also, that is probably the most impressive "chick" avatar on this site. That is one glorious rack.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:14 pm to dnm3305
Or you could spend the extra $400 on more ammo. Not that I have anything against Springfield.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:17 pm to Buck_Rogers
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Or you could spend the extra $400 on more ammo. Not that I have anything against Springfield.
Yes, definitely. However, we're talking 1911's here so the extra money is worth the higher quality components and fit/finish to me, especially if this will be a H.D. gun. If not, then yet, get the Ruger and spend the rest on ammo lol.
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