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Jindal op-ed on "The End of Race"


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In 2003, I decided to run for governor of Louisiana, a state where David Duke got 44 percent of the statewide vote in 1990. The pundits said I was insane to even try. Friends worried about my mental stability and begged me not to run. I narrowly lost that first race, but I’ve won every race since then. I wish I had a nickel for every time East Coast political journalists have asked me about discrimination, and I wish I had a dime for every Louisiana voter who has broken those journalists’ ugly stereotypes.

Here’s what I’ve found in Louisiana: The voters want to know what you believe, what you stand for, and what you plan to do, not what shade your skin is. And I think that’s true of the country as a whole: America’s younger generation pays less attention to skin color than the generations that preceded them. (By the way, I noticed recently that the president of the United States, a man with whom I disagree with on almost everything, seems to have darker skin than most Americans. He hasn’t had a problem getting elected.)

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Yet we still place far too much emphasis on our “separateness,” our heritage, ethnic background, skin color, etc. We live in the age of hyphenated Americans: Asian-Americans, Italian-Americans, African-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, Indian-Americans, and Native Americans, to name just a few.

Here’s an idea: How about just “Americans?” That has a nice ring to it, if you ask me. Placing undue emphasis on our “separateness” is a step backward. Bring back the melting pot.

There is nothing wrong with people being proud of their different heritages. We have a long tradition of folks from all different backgrounds incorporating their traditions into the American experience, but we must resist the politically correct trend of changing the melting pot into a salad bowl. E pluribus Unum.

When I became chairman of the Republican Governors’ Association last year, I gave this advice to the Republican Party: If you want people to like you, a good place to start is to demonstrate that you like them.

I try to treat people as individuals, and that is the way I want to be treated. I’m extremely proud of my parents and family, but that does not deter me from going “all in” on the idea of America. Put simply, I just do not care about the color of anyone’s skin – or eyes or hair either, for that matter.



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Decatur
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"The End of Race"


Does this mean no more threads about race on teh Poliboard? :crossingfingers:

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Here’s what I’ve found in Louisiana: The voters want to know what you believe, what you stand for, and what you plan to do, not what shade your skin is.


I'd still say there is a relatively high incidence of skin color affecting people's votes. That's just my personal experience from talking to people.






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I'd still say there is a relatively high incidence of skin color affecting people's votes.


Probably depends who you talk to. Most functional people judge people by their behavior. They are rational and act rationally. Most minorities thrive in America in spite of their "skin color" which you seem to think is so important.

Hard working law abiding Vietnamese, Indians, East Asians seem to thrive best I can tell. All have been elected to political office around here.






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I'd still say there is a relatively high incidence of skin color affecting people's votes. That's just my personal experience from talking to people.

maybe he's not-so-subtly calling his nonsupporters racists






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'Id still say there is a relatively high incidence of skin color affecting people's votes. That's just my personal experience from talking to people.







I agree.

I certainly see a pattern in this chart.



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Does this mean no more threads about race on teh Poliboard? :crossingfingers:



After the Martin/Zimmerman debacle, I think discussion on race and race politics is only going to become more frequent for a while.....and that's probably a good thing.

Obama's "if I had a son" speech and the blatant race baiting by journalists and politicians over the past year has essentially lit a fire.

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I'd still say there is a relatively high incidence of skin color affecting people's votes. That's just my personal experience from talking to people.


Definitely...considering the overwhelming support of Obama in the black community.



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It's time to end government data classification by race.





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Decatur
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Probably depends who you talk to.


Sure. Talk to people all over the state. If I just talked to people in New Orleans I'd miss a lot of it.

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Most functional people judge people by their behavior. They are rational and act rationally.


That's a lot of assumptions about "functional" people there. "Functional" people are just as capable of bias as anyone else.

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All have been elected to political office around here.


Are you referring to GNO or the whole of the state?






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CarrolltonTiger
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Sure. Talk to people all over the state. If I just talked to people in New Orleans I'd miss a lot of it.


I was suggesting it depends on the type of person you talk to not so much the geography of the state. Do you really think bigotry comes from location?

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That's a lot of assumptions about "functional" people there. "Functional" people are just as capable of bias as anyone else.


Not really, I find rational people to be less bigoted than the irrational and the dysfunctional are more likely to be irrational.

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Are you referring to GNO or the whole of the state?


Both. Political subdivisions in majority elections with functional electorates are more likely to be color blind than dysfunctional political subdivisions.







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That's a lot of assumptions about "functional" people there. "Functional" people are just as capable of bias as anyone else.

yeah sure

but they're much less subject to their bias steering their decisions and actual behavior






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Decatur
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but they're much less subject to their bias steering their decisions and actual behavior


Dunno if that bears out in any correlative way

Germans of the Third Reich were highly functional

David Duke was highly functional in his activities

Is there any research bearing on this issue?






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La Place Mike
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Sure. Talk to people all over the state. If I just talked to people in New Orleans I'd miss a lot of it.


Right,
I have lived all over the state and the most racist people I have met were from NOLA.






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Well Decatur,it was Democrats and liberals who wanted this discussion. But since its not going the way ya'll thought it would ,you want it to stop! Well I say hell no,we will continue to point out all racists,and since most are black you probaly won't like it. So just don't come in these threads.


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Decatur
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I have lived all over the state and the most racist people I have met were from NOLA.


Hasn't been my experience in New Orleans city limits. Can't say the same for Jeff Parish, St. Bernard and the other surrounding areas.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Dunno if that bears out in any correlative way


Dunno if you are serious with your examples? I disagree with you politically but didn't think you were this much of a dumb ass.

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Germans of the Third Reich were highly functional


WWII had significant racist elements but it wasn't caused by race. Totalitarian regimes grasp you can't leave the existing population in place when you are going to appropriate their land. Holocaust, hunger plan for Poland and Ukraine, starvation of Russian POW's were made easier by use of racism but weren't driven by racism.

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David Duke was highly functional in his activities


Political opportunist, he also is a felon and has tax problems, and has to live overseas he isn't that functional.

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Is there any research bearing on this issue?


You mean better than your pathetic examples?

I'll try with this syllogism,

racism is irrational

functional people are less likely to be irrational

therefore functional people are less likely to be racist


Again it depends on your definition of racism, if it is like VOR's anyone who disagrees with you, then you got me.






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Decatur
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So just don't come in these threads.


Yeah, my bad I usually don't come in these threads because they are largely worthless.

Have a nice Sunday.






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Well Decatur,it was Democrats and liberals who wanted this discussion.


Democrats and liberals invited it during the Martin/Zimmerman hurricane.






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trackfan
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Has he forgotten why he lost to Blanco in 2003?





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Well wasn't you and other liberals who wanted this discussion? So why the change of heart? Your President even asked for it.


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CarrolltonTiger
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Has he forgotten why he lost to Blanco in 2003?


Why?

I didn't vote for him in 2003 (but did in 2007)and not because of his skin color or ethnicity, but because he was foisted upon us by Foster and had little experience.

That was a close race, how do you know his ethnic origin was the reason?






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