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How do bands usually divvy up money between members?
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:04 pm
The thread about how The Verve got a fat chubby in the pooper on the Bittersweet Symphony deal and speculating about how much Richard Ashcroft would be worth if he'd gotten the royalties from that song, got me wondering about how that usually works.
Do bands usually split the royalties from a song equally? Do the royalties instead go the guy(s) who wrote the song? Or does this vary from band to band? If it varies from band to band, I feel like this could get messy. When forming a band, I can't imagine the first thing you do is draw up a contractual arrangement for future monies.
So how does this usually work? Educate me.
Do bands usually split the royalties from a song equally? Do the royalties instead go the guy(s) who wrote the song? Or does this vary from band to band? If it varies from band to band, I feel like this could get messy. When forming a band, I can't imagine the first thing you do is draw up a contractual arrangement for future monies.
So how does this usually work? Educate me.
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:04 pm to bobbyray21
Depends on who gets credit for writing the songs.
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:18 pm to Rickety Cricket
Okay, so as an example, let's use the song "Pumped Up Kicks".
Mark Foster is the only credited writer. Are you saying that it's likely that all the royalties from the song went directly to him?
Mark Foster is the only credited writer. Are you saying that it's likely that all the royalties from the song went directly to him?
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:20 pm to Rickety Cricket
It all depends on how bands choose to divide it up for songwriting credits... for example, REM always gave songwriting credit to all 4 members Berry, Buck, Mills, Stipe... no matter who contributed more...
Other songwriters, or songwriting teams aren't that generous..
Touring is a whole other animal...
Other songwriters, or songwriting teams aren't that generous..
Touring is a whole other animal...
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:21 pm to bobbyray21
If he owns the rights to his song, he would get the royalties.
But your money and album sales vary.
But your money and album sales vary.
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:22 pm to bobbyray21
That's the way I understand it.
I'm sure live performances and merchandising profit gets split equally among the band but as far as royalties it's going to go to the guy who wrote the song.
I'm sure live performances and merchandising profit gets split equally among the band but as far as royalties it's going to go to the guy who wrote the song.
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:26 pm to CottonWasKing
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I'm sure live performances and merchandising profit gets split equally among the band but as far as royalties it's going to go to the guy who wrote the song.
Well then what about album sales?
Posted on 8/21/13 at 12:34 pm to bobbyray21
Unrelated aside. Here is the story of "Pumped Up Kicks". Dude was working as a jingle writer for a jingle writing company, and the studio mentioned below is the studio they had at his office building.
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On the day of recording, Foster debated between songwriting in the studio and going to the beach. He explained: "I really didn't have anything to do that day. I was standing there in the studio, and this thought came in my mind like, 'I'm going to write a song,'... and then I was like, 'I don't feel like writing. I don't want to write a song.' I was a block away from the beach, and it was a beautiful day. I kind of just wanted to just be lazy and go hang out at the beach or whatever. But I just forced myself to write a song... By that time the next day, the song was finished."[3] Reflecting on the lack of inspiration he felt when writing the song, Foster said, "I've heard a lot of other artists talk about this as well, like, 'I'm not inspired right now. I've got writer's block. I'm just not really feeling anything.' And I've felt that way, too, just not being inspired and wanting to wait for inspiration to come before I wrote. But I wasn't inspired when I wrote 'Pumped Up Kicks,' and that's what came out. So... it just solidified the notion that perspiration is more powerful than inspiration."[3] Thinking that he was just recording a demo, he played all of the instruments on the song,[4] and using the software Logic Pro, he arranged and edited the song himself.[5] The demo is ultimately the version of the song that Foster released.[4]
Posted on 8/21/13 at 1:31 pm to CottonWasKing
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I'm sure live performances and merchandising profit gets split equally among the band
I agree in most low/mid level touring bands... but for bigger acts, its not uncommon for some of the band to be on a salary, so to speak...
Posted on 8/21/13 at 2:08 pm to TFTC
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I agree in most low/mid level touring bands... but for bigger acts, its not uncommon for some of the band to be on a salary, so to speak...
That's sort of what I was thinking. In bands where one guy is doing all the songwriting, it almost makes more sense to have your band members on salary. If the band drops a triple platinum album, hopefully the main guy gives them like a christmas bonus or something.
Posted on 8/21/13 at 6:42 pm to bobbyray21
For every record/CD sold, the label gets a cut, the performer gets a cut, the writer gets a cut, and there's probably a few more that I don't know about. So the members of the band would split the 'performer' cut, while whichever members wrote the songs would split that portion. Which is why, for example Robbie Robertson made a shitload more money than the rest of The Band.
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