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Concussions, not stipends, will be the downfall of the NCAA
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:31 am
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:31 am
Article is a few days old, but I searched and couldn't find anything.
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Twenty-seven, articulate, loving father of three, the former Eastern Illinois defensive back and team captain battles seizures and the effects of multiple concussions. He's on welfare because his condition keeps him from driving or holding a job. Who knows when that next seizure is coming? When it does, Arrington doesn't remember afterward and typically sleeps for two days, exhausted.
Whether the defendants in Arrington's lawsuit, the NCAA, are guilty or not of what he says is neglect on the concussion issue, legal experts have to know what kind of figure he is going to strike on the witness stand -- if his case ever gets in front of a jury. [It was reported Monday that the NCAA is considering a settlement in the Arrington case.]
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The game is under attack not only from the result of those concussions but from the legal community which -- even if Arrington vs. NCAA fails -- is ready to pounce.
"Once a plaintiff sees that model," said attorney Bill Conaty, a former Virginia Tech player and nine-year NFL veteran, "they will literally cut and paste."
The concern goes way beyond rules critics whining about football becoming 'two-hand touch,' it's whether the game as we know it will survive.
"It would be a real misfortune to lose the game of football." Teddy Roosevelt wrote those words 120 years ago. As president, Roosevelt stepped in to reform the game and protect its players. The issues of player safety that almost killed football at the beginning of the last century, have arisen again in this, the second decade of the 21st century.
"This is a Teddy Roosevelt-type of moment maybe for a number of reasons," according to one prominent administrator from a BCS conference.
The former NFL players' ongoing concussion lawsuit against the league includes 4,200 plaintiffs and is miles down the legal road. The current players have their own union looking out for them. Who is representing college players? Multiple sources have told CBSSports.com that the subject is now at the top of NCAA president Mark Emmert's agenda. Bigger than Johnny Manziel and autographs, bigger than the Miami scandal, bigger than Division 4 or griping about a stipend.
Take control of the concussion issue, the stakeholders say. Make our players safe. On that and other issues, according to one source, the NCAA "has completely lost support from people."
"I think the game has to change," Siprut said, "or it will die."
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Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:37 am to slackster
I knew a girl with TBI induced seizures, they severed the connections between the left and right hemisphere's to resolve the issue.
Awful stuff.
Awful stuff.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:40 am to slackster
I really don't hear about concussions in the NCAA unless the media just don't make a big deal about it because they aren't star athletes making big money.
I know the NFL issue involves a lot of former players suing and wanting money, maybe that's another reason why it's blown up in the NFL.
I know the NFL issue involves a lot of former players suing and wanting money, maybe that's another reason why it's blown up in the NFL.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:47 am to bayou2003
The reasonit is a big deal for the NFL is that the NFL may have known the dangers of concussions and hidden them from the players. The NCAA doesn't have the same cloud hanging over it so there is no legal grounds to sue.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:05 am to Philip J. Fry
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The NCAA doesn't have the same cloud hanging over it so there is no legal grounds to sue.
I don't want to see college football fall because of lawsuits, but this article leads me to believe that the players do have some legal grounds for a lawsuit. It doesn't focus on injuries from the 1960s and 1970s like the NFL lawsuit. Instead, it focuses on the last 20 or so years and the lack of a clearly defined procedure for concussion prevention and treatment. I have to believe the NCAA and member institutions have been aware of the negative consequences of concussions since 1990, no?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:05 am to Philip J. Fry
its a shame these players were so dumb to not know the risk of a full contact sport where you are constantly banging your head into something.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:07 am to oleyeller
I can't stand these people or the lawyers who are going to get rich off of this.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:10 am to bayou2003
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I really don't hear about concussions in the NCAA unless the media just don't make a big deal about it because they aren't star athletes making big money.
I know the NFL issue involves a lot of former players suing and wanting money, maybe that's another reason why it's blown up in the NFL.
This article focuses on college football, but the NCAA will be in a bind for all of its sanctioned sports. Again, this suit is markedly different from the NFL's suit. In this case, the plantiff is saying that the NCAA, an institution created for player safety, was negligent in its lack of a clear procedure for the treatment and prevention of concussions. I'm not any bigger fan of lawsuits than the next guy, but it will be interesting to see where this case goes. Apparently, the NCAA is looking to settle out of court according to the article.
The NCAA could be screwed simply because of the sheer number of participants. In 2012, 450,000 student-athletes participated in NCAA sanctioned events - more players than have ever played in the NFL's history.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:17 am to oleyeller
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its a shame these players were so dumb to not know the risk of a full contact sport where you are constantly banging your head into something.
come on, when we were kids we would headbutt each other all the time and never heard 1 word about concussions
It is a recent focus and a good one
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:17 am to slackster
The lawsuit is complete horseshite. 10% of the players never played a regular season dowm in an NFL game.
"War Against Football" by Dan Flynn blows up CTI studies on NFL players and suicide/ early death rates as
well. These same "studies" are the ones that these guys are quoting. Sadly, these same folks are ready to pounce
on CFB.
Football, on ALL levels has never been safer
"War Against Football" by Dan Flynn blows up CTI studies on NFL players and suicide/ early death rates as
well. These same "studies" are the ones that these guys are quoting. Sadly, these same folks are ready to pounce
on CFB.
Football, on ALL levels has never been safer
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:19 am to slackster
It sucks but I don't see how it is possible to prevent concussions in fast moving contact sports. Hell, one of my kids got one in a flag football game when he dove and his head met a knee. Fat people moving slow have less of a risk unless they are repeatedly bashing heads.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:35 am to slackster
The NCAA is an interesting topic here because for the most part they have left concussion issues up to the institutions. There are many schools more proactive than any NFL team but you don't hear about it.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:39 am to tigerskin
quote:that's the point
I don't see how it is possible to prevent concussions in fast moving contact sports
to paraphrase los lobos, will the sports survive?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:05 am to Kafka
well, what are we going to do? Eliminate every fast moving sport that has the potential to run into someone?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:16 am to slackster
I don't sympathize wiith those guys suing or blaming the NCAA for their problems...DON'T PLAY if you don't want to get hurt. Its a notably violent game. Go to college and get an education and get a real job if you don't like it
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:17 am to Lima Whiskey
Although this is awful, this guy understood without a doubt the risks involved in playing football.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 12:55 pm to Moustache
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Although this is awful, this guy understood without a doubt the risks involved in playing football.
I agree.
IMO, the real case is players who have had a concussion and were rushed back out to play. The NCAA and/or the member institutions are liable, IMO, in cases where additional injury occurred as a result of an inadequate procedure for dealing with concussions.
My younger brother had a concussion in the previous two high school seasons, and was held out of practice/games for 3 full weeks on the second occasion. He was not allowed to play until his "concussion test" score was at or above his benchmark score on the test from earlier that year.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:02 pm to slackster
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IMO, the real case is players who have had a concussion and were rushed back out to play
+1
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