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The new NCAA: private high schools recruiting
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:16 pm
With High School football starting and the way many are changing their outlook on how the NCAA treats student-athletes, is anyone else alarmed by how these high school coaches are recruiting athletes to play at their school?
The reason I bring this up is because I recently learned from a colleague that a young African-American kid will be joining a private school football team this fall (Mississippi).
My initial reaction was of joy because I was under the impression these schools were becoming more tolerant, however when I learned that the school is providing him a sports scholarship I was flabbergasted. The fact that he must sweat to attend a certain high school is appalling. Maybe I've got it all wrong but does anyone else see this as an issue -- not only from an academic standpoint, but from a racial tolerance point?
The reason I bring this up is because I recently learned from a colleague that a young African-American kid will be joining a private school football team this fall (Mississippi).
My initial reaction was of joy because I was under the impression these schools were becoming more tolerant, however when I learned that the school is providing him a sports scholarship I was flabbergasted. The fact that he must sweat to attend a certain high school is appalling. Maybe I've got it all wrong but does anyone else see this as an issue -- not only from an academic standpoint, but from a racial tolerance point?
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:23 pm to thegeneral3
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The fact that he must sweat to attend a certain high school is appalling. Maybe I've got it all wrong but does anyone else see this as an issue -- not only from an academic standpoint, but from a racial tolerance point?
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:27 pm to thegeneral3
Good spinoff on the MPSA v. Public School thread.
I assume you're talking about the small MPSA-like schools in the area. Maybe if they were forced to maintain the same or comparable ratios to white/minority students it would flush out schools simply looking for an advantage.
Then again, we have to be careful about encouraging any form of recruiting in HS sports, I think this is the last stand as far as genuine competitiveness since the recent changes in the NCAA.
I assume you're talking about the small MPSA-like schools in the area. Maybe if they were forced to maintain the same or comparable ratios to white/minority students it would flush out schools simply looking for an advantage.
Then again, we have to be careful about encouraging any form of recruiting in HS sports, I think this is the last stand as far as genuine competitiveness since the recent changes in the NCAA.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:30 pm to thegeneral3
how is this a surprise?
Public schools recruit athletes too.
The private school I went to recruited athletes back in the mid 90s when I was there and I'm sure they had done it long before that.
Public schools recruit athletes too.
The private school I went to recruited athletes back in the mid 90s when I was there and I'm sure they had done it long before that.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:32 pm to thegeneral3
Holy shite. I knew Mississippians held on to a pre-Civil war mentality into the 60's when it came to race relations but are MS high schools just figuring out it is a good idea to give financial aid to lure talented black athletes away from public schools? We've been doing that for about 35 years in South Florida.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:32 pm to thegeneral3
You're back thought for sure you were banned
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:35 pm to thegeneral3
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My initial reaction was of joy because I was under the impression these schools were becoming more tolerant, however when I learned that the school is providing him a sports scholarship I was flabbergasted. The fact that he must sweat to attend a certain high school is appalling. Maybe I've got it all wrong but does anyone else see this as an issue -- not only from an academic standpoint, but from a racial tolerance point?
I never knew Mississippi was still segregated.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:36 pm to Huevos
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Then again, we have to be careful about encouraging any form of recruiting in HS sports
okay when we get to the second friday night of the season, instead of the monster game in the Superdome between John Curtis and the powerhouse from Florida, i guess you want the Friday Night Football cameras at a game where both teams have sucked for years?
i guess you want the same amount of articles written about each team, whether ranked #6 in the country or #6 in their district...
you gotta look younger than high school... maybe watch one that sucks, bc you know they're following every rule
Posted on 8/16/13 at 12:56 pm to LSU82BILL
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Holy shite. I knew Mississippians held on to a pre-Civil war mentality into the 60's when it came to race relations but are MS high schools just figuring out it is a good idea to give financial aid to lure talented black athletes away from public schools?
Dude, you are way out of the loop. Several of the private schools in Mississppi would not even allow a black student to enroll, much less estend them any form of financial aid. Parklane Academy in McComb I think finally allowed "colored" folks to start going there in the last 5 or so years I think.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:07 pm to notiger1997
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Dude, you are way out of the loop. Several of the private schools in Mississppi would not even allow a black student to enroll, much less estend them any form of financial aid. Parklane Academy in McComb I think finally allowed "colored" folks to start going there in the last 5 or so years I think.
If that's true, that's very sad. Just when one thinks we're starting to take a step forward whites seem to take three steps back. I'm just happy we have those families out there who are willing to take a stand...
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:07 pm to notiger1997
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Dude, you are way out of the loop. Several of the private schools in Mississppi would not even allow a black student to enroll, much less estend them any form of financial aid. Parklane Academy in McComb I think finally allowed "colored" folks to start going there in the last 5 or so years I think.
If that's true, that's very sad. Just when one thinks we're starting to take a step forward white people seem to take three steps back. I'm just happy we have those families out there who are willing to take a stand...
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:09 pm to thegeneral3
Yeah, wade and his kind are assholes for stuff like that.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:10 pm to thegeneral3
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he fact that he must sweat to attend a certain high school is appalling. Maybe I've got it all wrong but does anyone else see this as an issue -- not only from an academic standpoint, but from a racial tolerance point?
Whats the difference between that and a sports scholarship at Duke?
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:12 pm to barry
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Whats the difference between that and a sports scholarship at Duke?
That's a great point, however I think the standard to enter Duke as a non-student is much higher than a non-student to enter a private high schools.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:14 pm to thegeneral3
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That's a great point, however I think the standard to enter Duke as a non-student is much higher than a non-student to enter a private high schools.
We can't really answer your question without knowing the school, but are you saying that they wouldn't let in a black kid if he were smart enough and their family could afford it?
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:21 pm to barry
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We can't really answer your question without knowing the school, but are you saying that they wouldn't let in a black kid if he were smart enough and their family could afford it?
Reading between the lines, that's the impression I gathered.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:21 pm to thegeneral3
This has been happening in Atlanta for as long as I can remember. Private schools recruit and waive tuition for athletes. Also have public city schools such as Buford that require tuition unless the student lives in the city limits. They'll waive tuition for Athletes. This is why some schools around here put out 10 d-1 signees a year and some haven't had a d-1 player in twenty years.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:24 pm to chalmetteowl
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instead of the monster game in the Superdome between John Curtis and the powerhouse from Florida,
Funny you mention this game. That powerhouse from Florida is St. Thomas Aquinas. They were the pioneers of recruiting poor talented black kids to play football. Michael Irvin was one of the first. One of 17 children and his dad was a laborer for a roofing contractor.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 1:31 pm to thegeneral3
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That's a great point, however I think the standard to enter Duke as a non-student is much higher than a non-student to enter a private high schools.
You mean like how it's easier to get into TCU than it is Duke?
There are plenty of private high schools that recruit and also have high academic standards the students must meet to gain entry and remain in school.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 1:33 pm
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