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re: Obamacare: mandatory home inspections to make sure you are being "good"


1. It's a Grant awarding States funds, which is legislated by the States. Choosing to accept funds and build their MIECHV programs.

2. These programs already exist. By accepting these funds you will use this money for these populations (existing recipients) for this purpose enrolled in this program. Nothing is being changed. Nothing is being altered.

3. It's Medicaid populations. If you're not in this program within Medicaid it doesn't apply.

4. 12M in Medicaid for 50 states couldn't even get anything off the ground. Much less provide enough personnel to invade homes.






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CptBengal
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3. It's Medicaid populations. If you're not in this program within Medicaid it doesn't apply.



I have asked you to link this several times now...please do so at your earliest convenience. it is not delineated in the bill.






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Cajun Revolution
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I have asked you to link this several times now...please do so at your earliest convenience. it is not delineated in the bill.



Your whole argument is nonsensical. You're trying to take one small stipulation in a "section" of a grant for only 12M dealing with eligible recipients/participants and applying it to a whole non-eligible or participating population.

Look, I get it. You believe there are conspiracies designed to hold you down. Area 51 has aliens too.

You're working yourself up over something that deals with a specific Medicaid program.






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NC_Tigah
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It's Medicaid populations
What "populations" do you think you're referencing?

With the Affordable Care Act’s enactment, Medicaid has completed its transition from a specialized program linked to welfare recipients, to a major health insurer that will be a lynchpin in ensuring functional exchanges in every state.






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CptBengal
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Look, I get it. You believe there are conspiracies designed to hold you down. Area 51 has aliens too.



so you have no link, no response...just ad hominem?

and people are to take this argument seriously? Why, because you post on the internet?

"Bonjour!"






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VOR
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re: Obamacare: mandatory home inspections to make sure you are being "good"


CptBengal stirring shite again. Shocker. Plus asking someone to prove a negative. Always a lame tactic.

Would you guys just use you'd your heads.






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Cajun Revolution
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Medicaid has completed its transition from a specialized program linked to welfare recipients, to a major health insurer that will be a lynchpin in ensuring functional exchanges in every state.


Wat.

No. There's still income eligibility requirements. Expanding those eligibility requirements and income bracket to 138% FPL maybe if States accept it. Exchanges are independent of Medicaid.






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CptBengal
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Plus asking someone to prove a negative. Always a lame tactic.



you got that backwards clown.

He asserted that it is spelled out.

I said it is not. I am asking him to prove his affirmative.

Back to your hole.....






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Cajun Revolution
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I'm argued out. I'm saying you're interpreting the legislation wrong. Proving a negative is one thing but getting all upset and nervous over some random medicaid grant bill is a bit absurd.





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CptBengal
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Proving a negative is one thing


I'm asking you to prove YOUR AFFIRMATIVE.

you said it is that way...so link it up!






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The legislation is quoted, linked, etc. It's a matter of your interpretation. If you think that would really pass a constitutional challenge by any means, you're absurd. It applies as a stipulation to accepting services from a program. It's not meant or used to be an overarching threat to every American's liberties and independence.





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CptBengal
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The legislation is quoted, linked, etc. It's a matter of your interpretation.


you quoted it, no link.

Second, nowhere in there does it claim you have to be enrolled in medicade, and you even highlighted applicants...which refers to States, NOT individuals.






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cwill
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Does anyone ever "win" the day?


I'm not talking about winning the day on a message board - of course no one admits defeat, but I'm talking about rallying and winning people over to the side that wants to get rid of this ridiculous legislation. WND probably does more to undermine conservative/right/libertarian positions than support them.






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NC_Tigah
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Expanding those eligibility requirements and income bracket to 138% FPL maybe if States accept it. Exchanges are independent of Medicaid.

NO!

The number is 400% FPL, CR.
Not 138%






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cwill
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Second, nowhere in there does it claim you have to be enrolled in medicade, and you even highlighted applicants...which refers to States, NOT individuals.


You're looking at the wrong legislation since the bill is only for funding existing state programs and limiting the use of those funds to cetain "eligible families" meeting certain criteria. You have to look elsewhere and at the state level.

What you quoted doesn't support your assertion that the gov will be busting in the doors of veterans to stop the revolution.






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Cajun Revolution
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The number is 400% FPL, CR.
Not 138%



You can qualify for coverage now up to 300% FPL under certain programs. It will be 138% for full benefits for all populations, 18-64 without children



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Cajun Revolution
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What you quoted doesn't support your assertion that the gov will be busting in the doors of veterans to stop the revolution.



Just give up. No wonder I never visit this place. It's like a house where every door leads to the same room.






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CptBengal
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What you quoted doesn't support your assertion that the gov will be busting in the doors of veterans to stop the revolution.


wow, my argument went over your head. It was based on the fact the DHS has listed them as the #1 terror threat.

BTW, as much as you have tried, you still have not disproved the OP.

all you have done is obfuscate and fail to prove your affirmative.






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Ace Midnight
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re: Obamacare: mandatory home inspections to make sure you are being "good"


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Medicaid has completed its transition from a specialized program linked to welfare recipients, to a major health insurer that will be a lynchpin in ensuring functional exchanges in every state.


And is the penultimate step to health care becoming an entitlement, IMHO.






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NC_Tigah
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300% FPL under certain programs. It will be 138% for full benefits for all populations, 18-64 without children
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Under federal health reform, 32 million Americans are expected to gain coverage through an expansion of Medicaid to 133 percent of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL); premium subsidies for individuals with incomes between 134 percent and 400 percent of the FPL; new insurance markets – Health Benefit Exchanges – through which individuals and small businesses may compare coverage options and purchase insurance; and reforms of private health insurance.






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