US Soccer's lack of stars

The usa players have a stigma that limits the number of big time opportunities they receive from top notch clubs.


Show me proof of this:

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I mean there are probably 10 countries right now that have at least 10 players arguably better than the best the USA has ever produced.

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Now it's true they are far off in the number of "stars" compared to spain, germany, brazil, etc.

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The usa players have a stigma that limits the number of big time opportunities they receive from top notch clubs.

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You really think top clubs aren't going to sign guys because of where they are from if they think they can help their team?

To become a world star, you have to play for the world's best teams...and Americans have not been ingrained in the system long enough for that to happen.

Americans are just starting to break into the world's best leagues as starters. It's going to take time before a star can be born.

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I mean it's kind of a general statement but who on the US could start for Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, England, the Netherlands, Belgium?

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Some times I think I could start for England.

You put England on the list? lol

But were those stars some of the first players to come out of that country? The U.S. is relatively new at putting people into England, Italy, Germany, Spain, etc. Just the last couple of decades.

Give me some examples. Name a top 20 player from a non-traditional power who was one of the country's first players in the big leagues/teams.

We're still behind small European countries in terms of youth development, and our domestic league is finally at a high enough level where teams from the bigger leagues are scouting us regularly.

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You put England on the list? lol

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You think Landon Donovan or Clint Dempsey are starting for England?

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Give me some examples. Name a top 20 player from a non-traditional power who was one of the country's first players in the big leagues/teams

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Would Dzeko count?

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You think Landon Donovan or Clint Dempsey are starting for England?

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England isn't really the power they used to be. Sure they have a great domestic league but less than 40% of their talent is domestic.

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Name a top 20 player from a non-traditional power who was one of the country's first players in the big leagues/teams.

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George Weah, I'd say Eto'o and Drogba count, certainly Drogba. Harry Keewell wasn't a top 20 player but probably better at his peak than Dempsey, although that was for a year or two only and Dempsey is more consistent. But the list isn't long.

I think anti-American bias has gone down quite a bit since the days of the shocking disrespect Donovan faced in Germany. The guy was the best player in the U-17 World Cup and the best young player in the real fricking WC and was treated as if he scored 5 goals in the Austrian Bundesliga the previous year.

I have no doubt he would have been a starter for a CL side if he had been born 4 years later.