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Offense Ahead of Defense Overall? What Does It Mean?

Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:08 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:08 pm
I know that there was chatter today about the offense getting the better of the defense in the Big Cat Drill and then I watched it and that was clearly the case. Maybe the BCD doesn't matter too much, but if you go back over the years, it has actually been a pretty good indicator of size, strength, quickness, and aggression. The Defense usually wins. Now, the offense is.

What does it mean?

We return 9 starters on offense and our offensive line is being built to maul people. That is part of what is happening.

Our Defense is young. Guys are going to be unsure of themselves and make mistakes.

They say at this time of year that the Defense is supposed to be ahead of the Offense. Maybe Cam is lighting a fire under the offensive guys? Maybe the defense is going to have a steeper learning curve?

Maybe it was the Big Cat Drill and it means nothing?


Discuss.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16371 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:10 pm to
I don't think you can gauge too much from Big Cat.

If the O is ahead of the D, I would attribute it more to the O having more starters back than on D.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80159 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:10 pm to
Means the D sucks
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:11 pm to
The only thing about the Big Cat was watching Hilliard get pushed around last year and lose every battle. Then, the season starts and he gets pushed around all season.

I am not saying that it is even 15% of the story, but it means something. Just assessing what we saw today.

No more. No less.



I'm bored.
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4147 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:12 pm to
It means u might be putting too much stock into a warm up drill
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:24 pm to
The big cat drill is basically blocking which is what the offense does.

Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

The only thing about the Big Cat was watching Hilliard get pushed around last year and lose every battle. Then, the season starts and he gets pushed around all season.



It's actually very simple. Hilliard kept moving his feet while Barrow stopped. KH has been working real hard to improve. Barrow just made one small mistake

It's a good sign for us because we shouldn't worry about Barrow. He'll be ready. Now we have some indication that Hilliard is motivated more than ever. Can't wait to see them light up TCU
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:26 pm to
Should call it big tiger drill.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:27 pm to
Fire Les Chavis!!!
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:32 pm to
This actually excites me. I have no doubt that Chavis will have a good defense. If the offense is better, it tells me it's because they have improved greatly.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62368 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:33 pm to
When you break down the match-ups, its not hard to see why. There were a lot of freshman on Defense, but Locature, Herron, Melvin Jones, and Bower won, or held their own against older guys. Maclin dominated, and Ego looked good. Freak, Johnson and Thomas didn't look bad, just didn't dominate, and Allen's go was just meh technique by the Offensive guy. So, I guess this must come from the RB's beating the LB's...?
Posted by hemiroid
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2009
1460 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:34 pm to
Doesn't mean much. The defense isn't allowed to shed their blocker. The drill is set up in the offenses favor!
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26613 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

The only thing about the Big Cat was watching Hilliard get pushed around last year and lose every battle. Then, the season starts and he gets pushed around all season.

I am not saying that it is even 15% of the story, but it means something. Just assessing what we saw today.



I liked what I saw from Hilliard considering he was stopped plenty times at the line of scrimmage on 3rd and very short or goal to go.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26613 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Doesn't mean much. The defense isn't allowed to shed their blocker. The drill is set up in the offenses favor!


no it's set up so the guy with better technique, leverage, and sometimes strength, beats his man head up.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:06 pm to
Yeah, I don't think they judge each one differently, do they?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

no it's set up so the guy with better technique, leverage, and sometimes strength, beats his man head up.



I thin this is true, but when defensive players practice leverage, and technique it doesn't translate to this drill. All offensive players practice blocking.
Posted by hemiroid
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2009
1460 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:41 pm to
Wrong! Can the offensive line guys do everything they would do in a game in this drill? The answer is YES. The Defensive Line can't!
Posted by tcujsauce
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Jul 2013
299 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 1:07 am to
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Offense Ahead of Defense Overall? What Does It Mean?


Posted by JayKrewe
Long Beach,CA
Member since Sep 2012
983 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:35 am to
doesn't mean much. i don't see freak or ego getting pushed around too much
Posted by TigerDen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1343 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:42 am to
It means our offense will be much improved and defense will take time to catch up during the season. It LOOKS like we're young on D and don't have explosiveness, though we won't really know till we play. Also, this gives you an indication of size/strength/speed though in-game stamina and motor can't be assessed. Maybe Ego and Freak get better as the games goes.
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