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My solution to the college athletes getting paid issue...

Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:33 pm
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:33 pm
Feel free to add your own as well.

Alright so everyone knows the stories and all that. Post needs no background explanation.

If college athletes are going to get paid, I believe it should all be above board, openly, and honestly. How does that happen? Through the schools they attend.

Here's what I'd do. Have every single athlete that comes sign a contract that agrees with these terms: Every single student athlete will sign a set number of photos, helmets, jerseys, footballs, baseballs, and so on when they arrive on campus. This goes for everyone. Quarterback, punter, goalie, tennis player, all of them.

The schools would then make each of these basic autograph items available for all one set price from the moment the athlete enrolls. So an autographed photo from the 5 star quarterback is the same price as the autographed photo from the freshman volleyball player. These basic items will be available for the entirety of the athlete's enrollment at said institution.

Now, obviously some athlete's signature becomes more in demand than others. So for those guys/gals whose John Hancock becomes more valuable, you'll hold special auctions for personalized items. Say you want that game jersey that Clowney wore in the Outback Bowl when he had the play of the year. It'll be open bidding and Jadeveon will give a personalized message on it. Something like "Thanks for all of the love and support Little Bobby - Jadeveon Clowney". That way athletes who are more transcendent will be able to cash in on that fact.

Now the catch would be that all of revenue that this draws will be held by the school to paid out to the athletes in full upon their eligibility expiring. This would prevent the integrity of the system from being compromised to an extent.

Now how do you prevent players from stepping outside of this system? Well you simply fine them. If you step out and break NCAA rules (not team rules like showing up 5 minutes late to a practice or two or missing a curfew by half an hour) then that payout will be docked. You incentive players not to break the rules with a cash award.

As for players lending their name/likeness/time/endorsement or whatever to a product or business, you can do that through the school as well. Say Bob's Tires is the official tire sponsor for State U. State U has a popular Point Guard or Quarterback or volleyball player or whatever. As an advertising partner with State U, Bob's Tires is offered the opportunity to film a commercial with any of those athletes for one flat fee. That fee would be the same whether they are Johnny Manziel or some chic on A&M's golf squad. Keep the boosters who happen to advertise with the school in check to a degree.

Another part of this that you can add on additional incentives for the players. If you complete your degree, the school will thrown on another percent or two to your total or a flat rate for doing so. This would encourage athletes who have very little shot of becoming a professional in their sport to receive their degree and go on to become a responsible ambassador for the school out in society.

What say ye?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:38 pm to
dumb
Posted by BRgetthenet
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117663 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:39 pm to
Stupid
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:45 pm to
A full ride scholarship has a cash value of around $200,000. Plus access to top of the line facilities, meals, and health care. Think about that.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

If you complete your degree, the school will thrown on another percent or two to your total or a flat rate for doing so. This would encourage athletes who have very little shot of becoming a professional in their sport to receive their degree.


I don't think programs with a player who doesn't have the talent to turn pro want that kid sticking around to get his degree and hogging roster space.

I seriously doubt they care...this whole "getting your degree" thing is so 1980's anyways. A degree doesn't even mean crap today for regular students. Employers want skills - and the football player is there for his skill. We've moved past...getting your degree beyond those who hold some antiquated feel good - oh, you got your degree with a C average...now you're going to be doctor.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:47 pm to
how about just give them a small weekly spending money allowance and let it go at that. that was exactly what was done when i was a student in the late 60's and early 70's. either that or just do away completely with athletic scollies and make the damn NFL set up a minor league system like MLB
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

how about just give them a small weekly spending money allowance and let it go at that


They all already get a stipend.

quote:

either that or just do away completely with athletic scollies and make the damn NFL set up a minor league system like MLB



This goes beyond just the sport of football, granted ESPN wants you believe its only happening with college football players.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:51 pm to
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I don't think programs with a player who doesn't have the talent to turn pro want that kid sticking around to get his degree and hogging roster space.


The scholarships are one year renewables anyways. This isn't an issue anyways.

quote:

I seriously doubt they care...this whole "getting your degree" thing is so 1980's anyways. A degree doesn't even mean crap today for regular students. Employers want skills - and the football player is there for his skill. We've moved past...getting your degree beyond those who hold some antiquated feel good - oh, you got your degree with a C average...now you're going to be doctor.


I don't know about all of that. Not all degrees are created equal that's for damn sure.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

A degree doesn't even mean crap today for regular students.


lol wut? A college degree means more now than ever. Back in the day, a high school diploma was often enough to get by.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

how about just give them a small weekly spending money allowance and let it go at that. that was exactly what was done when i was a student in the late 60's and early 70's.


You're being naive if you think athletes aren't already getting paid. Cheating was even worse in the 60's and 70's.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31854 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:57 pm to
DURANTULA;dr
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

A full ride scholarship has a cash value of around $200,000. Plus access to top of the line facilities, meals, and health care. Think about that.


Oh I know. Trust me, I'm not one of those people who believe that the schools themselves should be dropping extra money on these athletes just because.

I do have a problem with the schools and NCAA being able to use an athlete's likeness in perpetuity with the athlete not being able to see a single dime of it.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77900 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I don't think programs with a player who doesn't have the talent to turn pro want that kid sticking around to get his degree and hogging roster space.



Say what ? You do realize like 99% of college players don't have the talent to go pro right ?
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:09 pm to
You think the school is there to educate them?

wow.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41128 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

A full ride scholarship has a cash value of around $200,000.


Now once you start paying players would they be taxed on all the benefits? How much would a player have to be paid to break even on the taxes?
Posted by LaBoy225
Member since Aug 2013
20 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:19 pm to
I don't think paying players any more or giving a cash stipend will in any way reduce the temptation of boosters to give certain players a little extra on the side.

You're going to have players that want more $$$. For example in football...some players will think "Why should I (starting QB) get paid the same as a 3rd team DL?". Kids are going to want more money based on playing time, scoring TDs, INTs, sacks, tackles, rushing yds, etc.

There's no end to any of this.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

I don't think paying players any more or giving a cash stipend will in any way reduce the temptation of boosters to give certain players a little extra on the side.

You're going to have players that want more $$$. For example in football...some players will think "Why should I (starting QB) get paid the same as a 3rd team DL?". Kids are going to want more money based on playing time, scoring TDs, INTs, sacks, tackles, rushing yds, etc.



While my idea won't put an end to this, I do think it will take a healthy chunk of this out of the equation over time.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32843 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 7:26 pm to
Nope.

You do all that and I'm Mr. Nike Knight and I'll give you a $100 handshake to sign your LOI, take you out to a fancy meal and give you a big was of cash after homecoming. Why? Because the NCAA is already paying you, but I think you deserve more than the backup FB and a lot more than the starter for my rival team!
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15152 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 7:29 pm to
This whole idea. Is doing the most. You are over thinking things. College athletes will never be paid, not officially by the school at least. Now the rule about the whole improper benefits rule
I have never understood and i wish it would be changed a lil bit
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