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Auto Lease Rates

Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:34 pm
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:34 pm
Anyone know of a site that lists current residual and money factors other than Ridewithg
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3788 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:43 pm to
Most of them are unchanged from the incentive offers. If you know how to calculate it, you can back it out from that info. Residual is typically % and is constant regardless of trim level (some manufacturers do adjust it though, notably Toyota).

I've always found the info on Edmunds community forums. I believe the poster's name is "CarMan". He always posts up the information. Usually can find a thread about the vehicle you're looking for.

If Spam: DIAF
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:47 pm to
LOL Not spam! Looking for rates on a vehicle not currently listed on that site. I'll try Edmunds forums.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:48 pm to
What are you leasing?
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:59 pm to
2014 Mercedes ML350

Been quoted between .0015 - .0016 MF (one dealer started double that) but residuals have been all over from 50% to 60%, on 36 mo lease. I assume its a numbers monkeying game. One dealer will barely move off MSRP, with the most about 5%.

Just would like to know the real numbers to properly evaluate the deals.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:52 pm to
4.2 % interest on a new car is rather high today, wouldn't you agree?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:54 pm to
How much you putting down? Your note might be in the low 700's if you put nothing down
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:56 pm to
Putting money down on a lease only makes a poor decision even poorer.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:58 pm to
Works out great for me. I put nothing down on a 36 month lease. I get to deduct the monthly payment due to being a business use vehicle. Leasing has better tax advantages than buying.
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:44 am to
quote:

4.2 % interest on a new car is rather high today, wouldn't you agree?


Will Cover, I've read your car buying tips and respect your opinions.

I would agree 4.2% is high, but doesn't .0015 equate to 3.6% (which is still about a point higher than advertised bank rates)? Is the MF negotiable? Dealers say it's set by mfg?

And,I don't plan on anything down.

Regarding whether or not leasing is a poor decision, this is a business vehicle for my wife who prefers a new car every 3 years. If I buy/trade every 3 years in lieu of leasing, I'm going to get hammered with depreciation am I not?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80063 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 6:50 am to
quote:

4.2 % interest on a new car is rather high today


Very, when I got offered 2.9/60mo and 3.9/72mo on a used vehicle yesterday
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75097 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 7:54 am to
quote:

I'm going to get hammered with depreciation am I not


Yes, which is why it's better to lease.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80063 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Yes, which is why it's better to lease.



What is the $$$ amount that someone would expect to lose on a yearly basis to their vehicle (depreciation/financing)? Or what would you be comfortable with?
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:01 am to
Edmunds lists all current incentives and special offers, including leases, by manufacturer. It's not always up-to-date but you can confirm the terms at the manufacturer web site.

LINK
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3788 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:04 am to
Typical residual values after 36 months are 50-60%, meaning you lose 40-50% of the vehicle's value in 3 years. Add in financing costs, and if you really adjust to "true resale" value (or even trade-in), leasing can be advantageous if you understand what you're getting.

There was a thread on here a while back about the advantages/disadvantages of leasing.
Own vs Lease Discussion
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:33 am to
quote:

poor decision even poorer


How can you consider a lease a poor decision without knowin the circumstances? If someone had the intentions of getting a brand new vehicle every 2-3 years wouldn't it be smarter to lease??
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80063 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:42 am to
quote:

If someone had the intentions of getting a brand new vehicle every 2-3 years wouldn't it be smarter to lease??


And that kind of ties into my question. What is the average amount of money that everyone is ok with throwing away on a vehicle, that you know you will never get back?

5%, 10%, 15%, of your salary?
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65037 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:25 am to
All of it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80063 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:30 am to
quote:

All of it.




New Bugatti, here I come
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

What is the average amount of money that everyone is ok with throwing away on a vehicle, that you know you will never get back?


So you think that leasing is throwing away money but buying a car is an investment that is going to appreciate in value?

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