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re: ESPN: Johnny Manziel under NCAA investigation for profiting from autographs

Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:49 am to
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:49 am to
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Bruce Feldman ?@BFeldmanCBS now ESPN reports second autograph broker said he DIDN"T pay Manziel cash for signing but claims JMs buddy later asked for $.


Interesting.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:50 am to
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He's 100% jackass and stupid for doing this, but I think he should be able to profit from his name, his image, his celebrity.


then he should have left A&M after this past season
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:50 am to
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college football is a fraud.


Since very few of the "student" athletes in major college football could apply to college or make it though college without tutors doing their homework for them...it's a joke.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:51 am to
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then he should have left A&M after this past season


Under current rules, yes, but the rules are absurd...but that fits with college football.
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:53 am to
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t is really simple to just have that liberal mind set of lets pay them because they are young kids that universities and the NCAA take advantage of. but if you start publicly paying players then whats next?


I dont agree with paying players, but boy is this a terrible argument to make.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:00 am to
yeah, after reading what i typed...its stupid
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11266 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:01 am to
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If players are going to get paid, there should be a separate league outside of collegiate athletics. The stars would go semipro, and the student athletes would be just that. No way should there be a school branded semipro team.

Here come your best money can buy LSU Fighting Tigers! GTFO. College is for learning, not being a pro athlete.



agreed. not the ncaas fault theres not a better alternative for the student athletes that dont want to be students.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54475 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:10 am to
I bet he is gone for the year. What a dump frick if true.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:18 am to
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also, for all of the "players should be compensated" people.....do yall not realize how much tuition money they use? how much rent money they use? how much food money they use? and the few hundred bucks they are given per month?

they make well over 100k in 4 years

Sharecropping was awesome.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13136 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:20 am to
40 acres and a mule.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29146 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:27 am to
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Lol if you think he'd go to prison for not reporting that income on his 1040


First, I know a lot more about this than you.

Second, I know he would not actually go to prison, but not reporting the income is tax fraud and prison is an option.

Don't be such a "literalist" know it all.
Posted by lsutigerfan1976
Slidell, LA
Member since Nov 2009
2358 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:45 am to
I am still convinced nothing will happen to this kid. The NCAA will basically allow Texas A&M handle it internally. And A&M will basically find a way to sweep this all under a rug. Even if it means getting these ppl saying that they got paid to recant their story.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:00 pm to
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First, I know a lot more about this than you. Second, I know he would not actually go to prison, but not reporting the income is tax fraud and prison is an option. Don't be such a "literalist" know it all.


He is a college kid without a job so I doubt he files at all. As long as he doesn't submit a tax return at all he should be fine, right?
Posted by lsutigerfan1976
Slidell, LA
Member since Nov 2009
2358 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:02 pm to
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He is a college kid without a job so I doubt he files at all. As long as he doesn't submit a tax return at all he should be fine, right?


I am not familiar with that in each state. But i do believe there is a minimum where even if you do not work, you must file a tax return if you receive an amount greater than (x). Where (x) can vary from state to state.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29146 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:15 pm to
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He is a college kid without a job so I doubt he files at all. As long as he doesn't submit a tax return at all he should be fine, right?


If he is making money selling autographs he has income and if it is a significant amount he has to report it.

If it is a couple of thousand bucks, it will be under the radar. But nothing he does is under the radar.

He would not go to prison. That was why I put the laughy face in my first post. But he could be in IRS hot water if he doesn't report the earnings.

My main point is that it puts him in a tough position.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:17 pm to
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He either has to fess up and report it on his 1040 or deny it and file a false 1040. I'd fess up. Lose your eligibility but stay out of prison


Neither he doesn't have to report it until next April of '14, he will have turned pro by then.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29146 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:21 pm to
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Neither he doesn't have to report it until next April of '14, he will have turned pro by then.


Agree.

Even if the income was earned in 2012 he has until October of this year to file. By the time it works through the system, he is long gone. And if it is 2013 income he actually has until October 2014.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29146 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:23 pm to
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can vary from state to state.


Federal tax is not state specific. I think the minimum for this year is around $10,000.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:27 pm to
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Even if the income was earned in 2012 he has until October of this year to file.


BCS title game was in Jan
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29146 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:29 pm to
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BCS title game was in Jan


Ya I didn't go back and read the specifics. He's good until October '14 then.

I was not that serious about this in the first place. But the IRS is a powerful weapon.
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