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re: Bolton: Holden Tore Right ACL

Posted on 7/29/13 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164011 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 7:46 pm to
He'll be back before those matches 10 months from now. He probably won't make the 23 but he'll be on the first roster.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28421 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:01 pm to
One of the major issues when coming back from a tear like this is muscle strength. You would not believe how fast your muscles atrophy when you're walking around in crutches everywhere. I'm currently dealing with this and it's not fun. Plus, the surgery is way more painful than the tear itself. If anyone can do it I think it's Stu.

Now knowing a bit about ACL surgery, you have to wonder how they will repair his knee this time around. The gold standard is to take the middle 1/3rd of the patellar tendon and use that as the new ACL. If they've already taken that from his right knee they might have to go into his left knee to repair the right.

At the very least he can go back to coaching counterstrike.
Plus, it appears he was a pimp from an early age. I'm sure he'll be alright.

Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:06 pm to
Poor guy. shite for him to have luck like this.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70701 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

He probably won't make the 23 but he'll be on the first roster.



Ehhh...

Not sure about that. He would have to come back and make a to Bolton right away to warrant a call up to the 30 man roster.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:39 pm to
WHAT THE frick
Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:41 pm to
This is the most horrible thing I could have imagined. I feel so bad for him. frick.
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6181 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Lachman's ACL test.

sensitivity = .86
specificity = .91


Never thought I'd see the day we're posting psychometric properties on the efficacy of a special test on the SB...

It'll be a long recovery, but Stu's got a good attitude. At this point, the worst thing for him is to try and rush things to get back to Brazil, cause bottom line, it would only hurt him and his future IMO. If he wants to look out for his career and best interest, they need to take his rehab slow in getting him back to playing games.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30813 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

We complain about how bad off we have it but this kid is a modern day Job.


Rich, well traveled, no telling how much arse he pulls all for playing a few games a year. He's doing alright.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Now knowing a bit about ACL surgery, you have to wonder how they will repair his knee this time around. The gold standard is to take the middle 1/3rd of the patellar tendon and use that as the new ACL. If they've already taken that from his right knee they might have to go into his left knee to repair the right.

Don't they sometimes use a cadaver?
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7070 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:32 pm to
Achilles Tendon Allograft here. Wouldn t have it any other way.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:42 pm to
I had that shirt. frick yes
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28421 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:44 pm to
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Don't they sometimes use a cadaver?

Yeah, sometimes they do use a cadaver ACL, but there can be issues with rejection. My surgeon said they don't really use those anymore because they found they would look at them a year later and sometimes they would be completely dissolved.

I got the patellar tendon graft. They also have a surgery with the hamstring tendon where they fold it on itself several times to make one thick tendon. That said, met a guy at PT who had had this done and had it rerupture.

quote:

Achilles Tendon Allograft here. Wouldn t have it any other way.


What is this? Can you explain it for me? Never heard of this one.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:15 pm to
When I tore my ACL, I had part of my hamstring cut and replace it. Doc said this was what most athletes did because a) you're already cut open so they can cut some of the hamstring using a little video camera and it doesn't really affect anything because your knee is already fugged up. B) you can rehab your knee and hammy almost simultaneously when rehabbing and C) you can build your hamstring back up because it's a muscle.

Granted that was 3 years ago and technology changes daily, but I haven't had any setbacks. I am not back to how I was before, but that's mostly because I'm not as active or working out or running like I was in college.

Someone also explain to me this...Stu's left leg got messed up because of Evans, but he tore his right ACL. I thought de Jong just broke his right leg, did anything tear? Has he torn his right ACL before?
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2175 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 1:34 am to
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I was back in 4 months at 90% strength

yeah....this has got to be bullshite unless you are wolverine or a vampire or Adrian peterson.
I tore my ACL last year and at 4 months was nowhere near playing...NOBODY is.
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3081 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 2:01 am to
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yeah....this has got to be bullshite unless you are wolverine or a vampire or Adrian peterson.
I tore my ACL last year and at 4 months was nowhere near playing...NOBODY is.


Haha, I'm nowhere near any of those, but I did have surgery on Sept. 17, 2007 and I was playing by mid-January. My surgeon did a great job(patellar transplant), my PT specialized in knee rehab, and I worked my arse off. We decided to push it and I only missed one game my senior season. At the time, I was the quickest that this surgeon/PT duo had cleared an athlete. I was out of condition, but it was high school.

Stu will have far superior medical care than I did. He'll have the potential to be training again in 4-5 months, but of course that doesn't mean he'll be going a full 90 soon. He'll have to regain fitness along with getting back in form. Still, it's not unreasonable to hope that he's back practicing before Christmas.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 3:38 am to


time to get him to Dr James

AP RG3 "program", we will build him stronger
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 10:21 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 6:32 am to
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I had that shirt. frick yes




would take a miracle at this point for Stu to be in the WC 23 IMO. I would actually say about a 2% chance.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 6:45 am to
I was thinking closer to 3%



frick everything
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20740 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:33 am to
This is tough after following his recovery and reading several articles about his patience and dedication only to have this happen shortly after returning.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28421 posts
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:25 am to
I wonder if his surgeon just did a really shitty job.

He had the torn knee thanks to Johnny Evans, which took out his ACL and I'm sure did some other nasty damage.

However, he was supposed to come back that next September (March to September = 6 months), and he did so in playing a reserve match against Aston Villa. Then after the game they found that one of the screws used to reconstruct the ligament came loose and caused a lot more damage. This is what caused the longest delay in his recovery, because I guess it caused so much damage that it kept him out for more than an entire year.

Now the reconstructed ACL has reruptured. If I was Holden I would be seriously pissed at my doctors.
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